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  1. totti fan

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    Uighur extremists are terrorists pursuing unrealistic separatism encouraged by Washington, and doing so through extreme violence.

    Uighur Extremists are Carrying out Deadly Terrorism in China

    In a 2014 BBC article titled, “Why is there tension between China and the Uighurs?,” a long and appalling list of Uighur terrorist attacks are presented:

    In June 2012, six Uighurs reportedly tried to hijack a plane from Hotan to Urumqi before they were overpowered by passengers and crew.

    There was bloodshed in April 2013 and in June that year, 27 people died in Shanshan county after police opened fire on what state media described as a mob armed with knives attacking local government buildings

    At least 31 people were killed and more than 90 suffered injuries in May 2014 when two cars crashed through an Urumqi market and explosives were tossed into the crowd. China called it a “violent terrorist incident”.

    It followed a bomb and knife attack at Urumqi’s south railway station in April, which killed three and injured 79 others.

    In July, authorities said a knife-wielding gang attacked a police station and government offices in Yarkant, leaving 96 dead. The imam of China’s largest mosque, Jume Tahir, was stabbed to death days later.

    In September about 50 died in blasts in Luntai county outside police stations, a market and a shop. Details of both incidents are unclear and activists have contested some accounts of incidents in state media.

    Some violence has also spilled out of Xinjiang. A March stabbing spree in Kunming in Yunnan province that killed 29 people was blamed on Xinjiang separatists, as was an October 2013 incident where a car ploughed into a crowd and burst into flames in Beijing’s Tiananmen Square.

    Uighur Separatism is US Sponsored

    The United State government via the National Endowment for Democracy dedicates a page to programmes it is funding in what is listed as “Xinjiang/East Turkistan,” East Turkistan being the fictional name of the imaginary state separatists seek to carve out of Chinese territory.

    The inclusion of “East Turkistan” is all but an admission to US support for Uighur separatism.

    The “World Uyghur Congress” (WUC) is among the groups the US NED is funding. It openly promotes separatism.

    WUC is omnipresent in Western news reports, promoting allegations against Beijing regarding Xinjiang, yet WUC is actually based in Munich, Germany and Washington D.C.

    WUC representatives such as Dilxat Raxit and Rebiya Kadeer are cited, making various unsubstantiated claims regarding China’s treatment of Uighurs with Western news agencies often failing to mention their WUC affiliation or that the WUC is funded by the US government in articles.
    Stories like, “Chinese Police Order Xinjiang’s Muslims to Hand in All Copies of The Quran,” published by the US State Department-funded and directed Radio Free Asia network are based entirely on WUC claims.

    Further investigation would reveal the Qurans being collected were published in Saudi Arabia and deliberately rewritten to promote extremism. Newer versions printed elsewhere were not being collected.

    It is just one of many examples of the US intentionally undermining security in China, then intentionally misrepresenting China’s attempts to respond to these growing threats.

    Imagine what sort of security measures the United States or United Kingdom would put into place if such large scale and persist terrorism was taking place within their borders. Imagine what either nation would do if the separatism driving the violence was being openly promoted by a foreign state.


    The serious and growing Security Challenges Uighur terrorism presents not only to China but the rest of the world.

    The US State Department funded and directed Voice of America in an article titled, “Analysts: Uighur Jihadis in Syria Could Pose Threat,” would admit:

    Analysts are warning that the jihadi group Turkistan Islamic Party (TIP) in northwestern Syria could pose a danger to Syria’s volatile Idlib province, where efforts continue to keep a fragile Turkey-Russia-brokered cease-fire between Syrian regime forces and the various rebel groups.

    The TIP declared an Islamic emirate in Idlib in late November and has largely remained off the radar of authorities and the media thanks to its low profile. Founded in 2008 in the northwestern Chinese region of Xinjiang, the TIP has been one of the major extremist groups in Syria since the outbreak of the civil war in the country in 2011.

    The TIP is primarily made up of Uighur Muslims from China, but in recent years it also has included other jihadi fighters within its ranks.

    “Humanitarian Concern” as Geopolitical Handcuffs

    The schizophrenic nature of US media coverage regarding Uighur extremism, portraying them as innocent victims of Chinese “totalitarianism” on one hand, and as a heavily armed bloc fighting alongside Al Qaeda and the Islamic State terrorists in Syria on the other, betrays the former as a means of geopolitically handcuffing Beijing’s ability to decisively respond to the latter.

    By hindering Beijing’s ability to react to a terrorist threat the US is actively encouraging, Washington hopes to give Uighur extremism the space it needs to take hold and undermine China’s security indefinitely.

    As to why, the Bloomberg article makes it very clear:

    Xinjiang sits at the geographic heart of Xi’s signature Belt and Road Initiative. It’s a trillion-dollar plan to finance new highways, ports and other modern infrastructure projects in developing countries that will connect them to China’s markets—and, skeptics say, put them in China’s debt for decades to come.

    https://journal-neo.org/2019/01/30/...te-or-countering-western-sponsored-terrorism/

    TIBET

    the Tibet Autonomous Region’s shows clear progress in all socio-economic ratings. According to official data, the GDP of the region increased hundredfold and the average life expectancy almost doubled in the period from 1993 to 2014. Where for centuries the transport infrastructure had been the mountain paths along which yaks were the main transport, tens of thousands of kilometres of roads and railways, as well as modern airports have been built.

    In the TAR’s population of 3 million, there are approximately 50.000 monks and about 2000 active monasteries. According to the same official data, there has been no problem with “sinicization.”

    Tibetan Separatists Until the 1950s, Tibet was an theocratic autocracy. The monks had complete authority, and disobeying them meant having your eyes removed, hands cuff off, or being killed.

    When the Chinese Communist Party took power, and the Tibetan peasants rose up against the Monks, this changed everything. Modern Tibet, like the rest of China, has a booming economy with hospitals, schools, education, and a rising standard of living.

    Since the 1950s, the US has been arming Tibetan separatists who seek to reverse these changes. The Dalia Lama’s brother Gyalo Thodup led a division of Tibetan monks who received military training in Colorado. They were then air-dropped into Tibet, where they waged a bloody insurgency campaign, assassinating Communist Party leaders, destroying homes, hospitals, and schools. Former CIA agents document this campaign of violence in the 2002 book “The CIA’s Secret War in Tibet.”

    Since then the US funded Tibetan Separatists have not given up their ugly campaign of violence. In racist riots, they have gone through the streets attacking and killing ethnically Han Chinese people. Tibetan Separatists in France even assaulted a Chinese athlete Jin Jing, as she carried the olympic torch in her wheel chair.

    Until 1959, when the Dalai Lama last presided over Tibet, most of the arable land was still organized into religious or secular manorial estates worked by serfs. Even a writer like Pradyumna Karan, sympathetic to the old order, admits that "a great deal of real estate belonged to the monasteries, and most of them amassed great riches. . . . In addition, individual monks and lamas were able to accumulate great wealth through active participation in trade, commerce, and money lending." [8] Drepung monastery was one of the biggest landowners in the world, with its 185 manors, 25,000 serfs, 300 great pastures, and 16,000 herdsmen. The wealth of the monasteries went to the higher-ranking lamas, many of them scions of aristocratic families, while most of the lower clergy were as poor as the peasant class from which they sprang. This class-determined economic inequality within the Tibetan clergy closely parallels that of the Christian clergy in medieval Europe.

    A Tibetan lord would often take his pick of females in the serf population, if we are to believe one 22-year old woman, herself a runaway serf: "All pretty serf girls were usually taken by the owner as house servants and used as he wished." They "were just slaves without rights." [15] Serfs needed permission to go anywhere. Landowners had legal authority to capture and forcibly bring back those who tried to flee. A 24-year old runaway serf, interviewed by Anna Louise Strong, welcomed the Chinese intervention as a "liberation." During his time as a serf he claims he was not much different from a draft animal, subjected to incessant toil, hunger, and cold, unable to read or write, and knowing nothing at all. He tells of his attempts to flee:

    The first time [the landlord's men] caught me running away, I was very small, and they only cuffed me and cursed me. The second time they beat me up. The third time I was already fifteen and they gave me fifty heavy lashes, with two men sitting on me, one on my head and one on my feet. Blood came then from my nose and mouth. The overseer said: "This is only blood from the nose; maybe you take heavier sticks and bring some blood from the brain." They beat then with heavier sticks and poured alcohol and water with caustic soda on the wounds to make more pain. I passed out for two hours. [16]

    Some monasteries had their own private prisons, reports Anna Louise Strong. In 1959, she visited an exhibition of torture equipment that had been used by the Tibetan overlords. There were handcuffs of all sizes, including small ones for children, and instruments for cutting off noses and ears, and breaking off hands. For gouging out eyes, there was a special stone cap with two holes in it that was pressed down over the head so that the eyes bulged out through the holes and could be more readily torn out. There were instruments for slicing off kneecaps and heels, or hamstringing legs. There were hot brands, whips, and special implements for disembowling. [21]

    Theocratic despotism had been the rule for generations. An English visitor to Tibet in 1895, Dr. A. L. Waddell, wrote that the Tibetan people were under the "intolerable tyranny of monks" and the devil superstitions they had fashioned to terrorize the people. In 1904 Perceval Landon described the Dalai Lama's rule as "an engine of oppression" and "a barrier to all human improvement." At about that time, another English traveler, Captain W.F.T. O'Connor, observed that "the great landowners and the priests . . . exercise each in their own dominion a despotic power from which there is no appeal," while the people are "oppressed by the most monstrous growth of monasticism and priest-craft the world has ever seen." Tibetan rulers, like those of Europe during the Middle Ages, "forged innumerable weapons of servitude, invented degrading legends and stimulated a spirit of superstition" among the common people. [23]

    https://dissidentvoice.org/Articles9/Parenti_Tibet.htm

    But you know the neo-con playbook. First manufacture consent through the use of mainstream state and corporate media, e.g babies taken from incubators, WMDs (Iraq) and chemical weapon attacks (Syria). There's also been a number of false flag attacks that have served the same purpose. And so of course the next step is war and military intervention justified under the pretense of humanitarian grounds and spreading American democracy.

    When you promote the narrative that x country is bad based purely on one side of the story you are promoting the US imperialist, militarist agenda.
     
  2. totti fan

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    If your country had a wealth of natural resources such as abundant oil reserves, would you prefer to let American multinationals take control of those assets or would you nationalise those industries?
     
  3. totti fan

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    Glenn Greenwald and a conservative journalist got into a scuffle on a Portugese radio show (started by the conservative):


    It's in Portugese but I think the conservation went something like this before it got physical:

    Greenwald: we need to investigate corruption
    Conservative: you're gay your kids need to be taken away from you its not a fit environment for children
    Greenwald: you're a coward
     
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    You're paranoid, it's clear. The two countries will not go to war, with the exception of trade. China is communist when it suits them, like when they want to steal your business and assets and capitalist when it also suits them, like when they have slave labor factories full of workers making knock off products of trademarked American innovation to sell on Alibaba for well under market value. You suggesting that they will go to war and destroy their economy that is driven by American conspumtion reveals your paranoia. I'm seeing a trend in you too. You come in hard for a week or two trolling with all kinds of no really creepy and asinine beliefs then go missing for a few weeks. Maybe you've been experimenting with weird unscientific diets because you are bipolar and hope there is a cure? There isn't. Just stay on the medications.
     
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    Nationalize.
     
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    You don't think China does the exact same thing with their media and schools? You think brainwashing is exclusive to the US?
     
  9. totti fan

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    China is not bombing 7 countries
     
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    They don't need to, they have 1.38 billion people they can steal from daily
     
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    China is kept in check. There's only room for one "world police". And I'd hate to see a world where China is the global authority.
     
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    #17037 falvo, Nov 10, 2019
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    If it wasn't for Trump, China will have never been called out as a currency manipulator We all knew China was taking advantage of everyone but no one ever said anything about it. Did anyone ever hear about China when Clinton, Bush Sr & Jr or Obama was in charge? I never heard a word from either administration. Living in Silicon Valley or Cupertino where Apple is located, there are tons of Chinese spies trying to steel ideas and wanting secrets. They've come in with loads of cash and have driven up the cost of what once were cheaply made factory farm and blue collar workers homes to astronomical , unaffordable prices.

    Again maybe we all knew it I was going on but no one ever made a stink or said anything about it until Trump came along.
     
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    Shocking, though, that they could go that deep into the puzzle without picking r and e. I mean, who picks y before r?
     
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    Hybrid model is proven to be the best way.
     
  16. totti fan

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    So if it wasn't for the US, China would be an aggressive actor?
     
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    QE is currency manipulation. And arguably when the Fed changes the cash rate they're manipulating the currency as well.
     
  18. falvo

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    Of course. That is well known but what China does on the other hand with currency is not well known and is a secret.

    We can talk about how corrupt the US government and or the feds are for example but try doing the same thing in China.
     
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    The guy on the left in green punches like a girl. Is that why you like him?
     
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    Why do you ask stupid questions for?
     
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    Cancel culture got Don Cherry fired :(
     
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    “You people ... you love our way of life, you love our milk and honey, at least you can pay a couple bucks for a poppy or something like that. These guys paid for your way of life that you enjoy in Canada, these guys paid the biggest price.”
     
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