Mueller indictment thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by superdave, Oct 28, 2017.

  1. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    I am speaking legally.

    My dude just outlined a criminal conspiracy and gave the key names, dates and places pertaining to everyone involved, including Hope Hicks.

    LOL
     
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  2. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    Agree although that may be irrelevant to Mueller and his team as well as the rest of the population. At some point, the levees will break.
     
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  3. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    The GOP platform is a big key to this as I've always thought. Now we hear that Carter Page congratulated TrumpCo's foreign policy team on the Ukraine amendent to the the platform. So key points of the "dodgy dossier" are proving out. Where the hell were Republican leaders when this was going down in real time?

    The House Intelligence Committee on Monday released the full transcript of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page's testimony before the panel last week, portions of which support details in an explosive collection of memos outlining alleged collusion between the campaign and Moscow during the election.

    Page revealed during his testimony that he met with both members of Russia's presidential administration and with the head of investor relations at the state-owned Russian oil giant Rosneft during his trip to Moscow last July.

    He also congratulated members of the Trump campaign's foreign policy team on July 14 for their "excellent work" on the "Ukraine amendment" - a reference to the Trump campaign's decision to "intervene" to water down a proposed amendment to the GOP's Ukraine platform.

    The original amendment proposed that the GOP commit to sending "lethal weapons" to the Ukrainian army to fend off Russian aggression. But it was ultimately altered to say "provide appropriate assistance" before it was included in the party's official platform. The dossier alleges that the campaign "agreed to sideline" the issue of Russia's invasion of Crimea and interference in eastern Ukraine in exchange for dirt on Hillary Clinton.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/carter-page-congressional-testimony-transcript-steele-dossier-2017-11
     
  4. HerthaBerwyn

    HerthaBerwyn Member+

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    Jeffy stole the cookies from the cookie jar. Who, me? Yes, you! Could'nt be!, Then who?
    Jared stole the cookies from the cookie jar! Who, me?
     
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  5. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

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    If this happened half of Trump's support would consider this fake news because Fox & Breitbart instead of reporting it would be looking into new Benghazi relevations. The other half won't care because they know that Russia isn't that bad and that the ends justify the means.
     
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  6. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

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    Even then, most of them will rationalize it.

    Option 1 : Trump is being drugged and he's saying things he doesn't mean.
    Option 2 : Killary is worse
    Option 3 : treason is a good thing
     
  7. ceezmad

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    He did it to stop Hillary, that is all Trumpers would need, so they would not care at all, the ends (him winning) would justify the means.

    Unless the military (veterans) turn on Trump, that maybe the only way I can see some Trumpers caring, and even that is iffy.
     
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  8. raza_rebel

    raza_rebel Member+

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    This guy sounds like a character in a Coen brothers movie that was written out because he wasn't believable enough.
     
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  9. soccernutter

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    #57 - Probably, but we need an actual connection - the standards must higher. And remember, 45 doesn't really care that much about governing.
     
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  10. xtomx

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    For the love of anything sacred, get that man a blog or something.
    50+ tweets is not good
     
  11. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

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    Sep 6, 2001
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    Well, there's your problem. Clearly, if he said "sound mind," he would not be telling the truth.

    Even if he said it, some of his supporters would say:
    "still better than Hillary. Lock her up!"
     
  12. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    WHY

    We already have Teapot Dome + Watergate on record. They've admitted to it. Trump said he fired Jim Comey to end the Russia investigation, and his company tells foreign diplomats to stay at the DC Trump Hotel to ensure access to the President's advisers.

    You have all you need. Stop looking for the pee tape, people!
     
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  13. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

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    says you - but I'm more likely to read a random good twitter thread than some random blog. Once a thread is good for 3 or 4 it can be good for as long as it takes to properly say something.
    Lots of 4-tweet threads that are garbage, plenty of 50-60 that are spectacular and informative. And vice-versa :)

    But if you want to ignore something simply because it's too hard for you to scroll, that's your prerogative. Like people who won't read a blog or bigsoccer post that's more than 2 paragraphs.
     
  14. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    I like what John Oliver is calling it - Stupid Watergate. :D
     
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  15. appoo

    appoo Member+

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    And all them suburban Republicans who held their noses and voted for Trump, so Hillary wouldn't get the Presidency? They will vote for a non-controversial Democrat or no one.
     
  16. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Either that, or Fox News tells them that.

    I'm not joking, not 1%.
     
  17. appoo

    appoo Member+

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    Who cares, you can't win an election with 37% of the electorate voting for you. Trump got 46% of the popular vote, Last september, and won by a RAZOR THIN margin.
     
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  18. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

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    You know full well that Joe W was the last person on Big Soccer who could write posts of 3 paragraphs or more who was consistently readable.
     
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  19. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Michael Che said it best on SNL, when he played Lester Holt. He turns to the camera and says, that's it, right, it's over? And Alec Baldwin says, no, nothing matters anymore.
     
  20. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

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    I would guess the latter way over the former - but either way that Va. doesn't end up with the hate-mongering R candidate for Gov I will be happy.
     
  21. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

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    I want the pee tape. I don't want Trump convicted, I want him humiliated. I want him destroyed.
     
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  22. appoo

    appoo Member+

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    I'm 50/50 on this. If you read any of Nate Cohn and Nate Silver (why are our two best Political Data Analysts named Nate?) then a big problem with polling is that they vastly underplay uneducated voters in their likely models, because they don't like responding to pollsters. So they'll respoind at in just 6%, but participate in a much higher rate. That was the problem in PA, WI, and MI where all the pollsters there undercounted uneducated whites. Some of the pollsters in VA have added weightage for education (basically putting a lot more emphasis on uneducated white folks), but now the question is did they over learn their lesson?

    Because the polls that use educated weights, show a race within the margin of error.
     
  23. chaski

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    I stopped reading here.
     
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  24. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

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    This is a man who motorboated Guiliani I believe on live tv. You have to be human to be able to be humiliated.
     
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  25. ceezmad

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    Shit Golder shower caps with MAGA will be the most sold item in the rural counties if the tape does come out.
     

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