MLS-owned USL teams

Discussion in 'United Soccer Leagues' started by EPJr, Apr 30, 2014.

  1. Blando13

    Blando13 Member+

    Dec 4, 2013
    Lee's Summit, MO
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Country:
    United States
    Being an affiliate hasn't really negatively effected players for teams like Energy FC, Charleston Batttery, Rochester Rhinos, etc. so I'm not sure it's a negative for Ottawa players. Does it mean there may be more "competition" for minutes? Sure, but that can be true of any player/position on any team, you beat out the players you train with for playing time.

    FC Montreal players just lost their team, so yeah, not positive at all. They'll likely have to go get a contract elsewhere.
     
  2. OnlyOneTInFootball

    Mar 15, 2011
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    They were likely to have to do that anyways.
     
  3. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Country:
    United States
    You don't think some Ottawa players will lose their spot to a Impact loanee? And if not, why did Montreal agree to affiliate?
     
  4. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Country:
    United States
    From what I've seen... No... USL teams haven't really been under any obligation to play the loanees from the MLS team. On the rare occasion when the MLS team loans players to their affiliate, those players don't always get playing time. MLS teams are supposedly required to loan a minimum of 4 players to their USL affiliates, but it's often just one or two..
     
  5. sawillis

    sawillis Member

    Apr 24, 2007
    Smyrna, TN
    How would the ability to take loans be a negative for Ottawa. Unless Montreal is taking over soccer ops this is essentially a zero change for Ottawa.
     
  6. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    All MLS teams have to have an affiliate. But that doesn't mean they use it. There are several examples of teams only loaning 1 or 2 players. Or none.
     
  7. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    I don't see a list like this from 2016 but here is a list of USL loans from May of 2015.

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/transactions/2015/usl-loans

    Note that it includes loans to teams other than affiliates. The average number of players loaned to the affiliate is less than 2.5 per team with 13 teams loaning 2 or fewer.
     
  8. OnlyOneTInFootball

    Mar 15, 2011
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    If I remember correctly, many minor league players have one-year contracts anyways. A quick count of the Fury roster on Wikipedia showed only 4 players had been with the team for more than one year.
     
  9. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Country:
    United States
    Let me rephrase, if this is the norm for Montreals affiliation with Ottawa, this is terrible for the Impact academy. Why would any MLS team shift to this system if that's how it works. I get that Crew or NYCFC expect nothing from their affiliation, but a fully controlled academy team like FC Montreal to this affiliation is a major loss.
     
  10. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Country:
    United States
    $$$$$. :)
     
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  11. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Country:
    United States
    Hope this ain't the case. Would feel especially bad for FC Montreal staff & supporters.
     
  12. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Country:
    United States
    I'd imagine most of the staff and supporters were Impact staff and supporters.
     
  13. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Country:
    United States
    Exactly. As far as teams folding go, this is about as painless as it gets. I mean their fans will be just fine continuing to root for their higher level squad, and I highly doubt most of the staff didn't already have other roles with the big club too. It's really only the players left in the cold.
     
  14. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
  15. C-Rob

    C-Rob Member

    May 31, 2000
  16. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Country:
    United States
    Since they are supposed to start playing in 2018, they will likely be signing some of their back-up/younger players starting next season. Those players will need somewhere to play.
     
  17. Sporting Real

    Sporting Real Member+

    Jun 29, 2011
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Country:
    United States
    If LAFC do start their own USL team, they should do it somewhere like Santa Monica, Oxnard, or Santa Barbara.
     
  18. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Yep. Atlanta did the same thing in 2016 by affiliating with Charleston.
     
  19. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Country:
    United States
    MLS wholly owned USL teams:
    Real Monarchs
    LA 2
    Seattle 2
    Timbers 2
    Bethlehem Steel
    TFC 2
    NYRB 2
    Orlando City B
    Swope Park Rangers

    Did I miss any?
     
  20. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Vancouver 2 should be added.

    Also, FC Montreal but it sounds like they are going away.
     
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  21. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Country:
    United States
    Smart move for both teams. Gives LAFC a place to play their younger players they sign from now until they take the field in 2018. For OC Blues it gives more people in the Greater LA area a reason to pay attention to them and care they exist (which has been a running problem for them for years). And coupled with OC's coming rebranding, coaching change, etc... it's a good time to relaunch themselves as a more relevant team.
     
  22. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Country:
    United States
    Add DC United USL to your list. Short on details other than coming in 2018.
     
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  23. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
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  24. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Country:
    United States
    Great signing.
     
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  25. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
    this is the article link from 12/15 which is definitely associated with your post:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...unch-usl-team-in-2018/?utm_term=.badc08b04e49

    United has begun a preliminary search for a playing venue, with Maryland SoccerPlex in Boyds and the University of Maryland’s Ludwig Field under consideration.
    The team has also spoken with officials at George Mason University about building a 5,000-seat stadium as the centerpiece of a permanent training facility for United’s senior team, USL squad and youth academy. Mason’s soccer teams would use the stadium and practice fields, as well.
     

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