MLS in CCL (tourney resumes)

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by tigersoccer2005, Feb 20, 2017.

  1. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Wait. You're insinuating that the real world isn't cut and dried/black and white, but is actually more complex without a one size fits all solution?

    Next your going to tell me there's a team with a multi-year run of sellouts in a stadium that is nowhere near mass transit or downtown.
     
  2. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

    Aug 12, 2012
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    But it's across the street from Cabelas. That makes up for it.
     
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  3. Daniel from Montréal

    Aug 4, 2000
    Montréal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Montreal has two home stadiums: SS and SO. They use each depending on specific criteria (mainly weather). I wouldn't be surprised if they simply had to declare a single stadium for all knockout rounds, and since the QF was in early March, they picked SO.
     
  4. Andy_B

    Andy_B Member+

    Feb 2, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    so after the modifying is complete, MLS teams who qualify will be much closer to the date of the actual knockout rounds?

    For example in the 2020 UCL, those February games will come from MLS teams finishing up the 2019 season? That would be ideal (outside of the February start).

    Do you have more info on what the modification is? Are they having a playoff between teams from 2017 and 2018 to see who gets in?
     
  5. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is correct. Starting with the 2019 qualifiers, they'll appear in the very next CCL, which should be about 6 months after they qualify for CCL.

    There isn't anything official, but Garth Lagerwey (Sounders GM) said that 2017 and 2018 will (likely) only qualify 2 teams each season for the 2018/19 CCL. My guess was that it will be MLS Cup Winner and SS Winner for each season.
     
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  6. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    That's what it was before the CCL re-branding in the eight-team champions cup. MLS Cup winner and SS champion. But personally I would prefer the USOC champion. In the absence of pro/rel the USSF owes the lower leagues that much. Or at least have a "charity shield" between SS and USOC winners in 2017 and 2018.
     
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  7. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    USSF doesn't owe the lower leagues anything.

    EDIT: I say that as a ten year fan of a D2 team, one with a >.500 record against MLS teams.
     
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  8. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Oh, Santos was taking them plenty seriously. And in "what regard" is advancing in the CCL more important than the CCC - and to whom?

    With the roster turnover in LigaMX, I'm pretty sure teams aren't sitting their in February thinking of some tournament in December that 1) they may not be around four and 2) still have to win more games to qualify for. And that's assuming they actually get part of the prize money.

    If anything, I think Santos Laguna was under more pressure than any LigaMX team has been since. They were the first to get knocked out in a home/home set against an MLS team. They ruined the perfect record. Those players can't un-own that piece of history.
     
  9. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If FC Dallas reach the final will could they play to accommodate 30,000 Pachuca fans?
     
  10. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If they make it to the final, why would there be any Pachuca fans there?
     
  11. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because they're closeted Tigres fans? :whistling:
     
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  12. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    #LigaMX4Tigres
     
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  13. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not a terrible result by Dallas, they at least defended their home.
     
  14. Bubba1971

    Bubba1971 Member+

    Nov 12, 2010
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #MLS4Tigres

    If you can't beat 'em...
     
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  15. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    The ETR guys said that this Tigres team might be the best team in the history of Liga MX.

    I'd be interested to know whether Liga MX fans actually think that.............................
     
  16. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll take Overheated Rhetoric for $800, Alex.

    In the Clausura, Tigres currently have 11 points from 9 games and are in 12th place out of 18. They are probably underperforming their talent, but I think the ETR guys are being more than a little hyperbolic.

    Tigres finished 3rd in the Apertura, which is a good showing but also probably not GOAT material.
     
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  17. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I thought so, but wanted to see if I was crazy. [Still possible.]

    Its actually Pachuca that's tied for the best record in the Clausura, right?
    And it was Pachuca that finished ahead of Tigres in the 2016 Apertura (only to lose in the playoffs).

    Its too bad that Pachuca is missing Lozano, one of the best young players in CONCACAF.
     
  18. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pachuca finished 2nd in the Apertura, one point ahead of Tigres. Pachuca lost in the quarterfinals to Necaxa, while Tigres went on to win the final in PKs.

    Pachuca is in 2nd place in the Clausura with 17 points, behind Chivas on GD. There are three other clubs on 16 points right behind them.
     
  19. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    #C'CAF4Tigres come December? :D
     
  20. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tigres fan art i found online

    [​IMG]

    Hate to rain on the Tigres parade--but i for one hope they lose. Not because i hate the team but because it is fitting that Tuca Ferretti keep on suffering a bit more for his hubris a few years back.
    Besides, of the 2 Liga MX teams--assuming one wins CONCACAF, i think Pachuca has a better chance of giving a good showing at the Fifa Club World Cup.
     
  21. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Evil Pachuca gopher on steroids.....

    [​IMG]
     
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  22. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's like he has a mental illness.
     
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  23. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe they are the most expensive team in the Americas, I am not sure what they go by, but I have heard that from the announcers when they play, probably Tranfermarkt.
     
  24. Daniel from Montréal

    Aug 4, 2000
    Montréal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Most expensive/valuable in Mexico (and CONCACAF) according to Transfermarkt.

    Brazil has more expensive clubs, as does Argentina.
     
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  25. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
     
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