MLS Flavors of the Week, 2017 Edition

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by TheFalseNine, Jan 12, 2017.

  1. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe maybe not. With the market as crazy as it is he has a great season and that price could jump from 24 to 40. If their in a position of strength it might be worth it to them to say pay what we want or we will wait. Yes theirs risk with that too but it's not cut and dry either way.
     
  2. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Man their legit trying to go for it. I love it.
     
  3. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Oki, J-pan
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With the purse strings opening up a little bit more and Atlanta splashing cash around don't be surprised if LAFC and NYC FC start to throw weight around this summer.
     
  4. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    On My Squatty Potty
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Double edged sword.

    I love ATL's ambition, their scouting, their going after South Americans.

    But Almiron and Barco as AM's suggests Carleton has zero future there.
     
  5. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    On My Squatty Potty
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Perhaps Benny's poor attitude was the problem.
     
  6. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Luckily for us neither coach played him. No Benny, no problem. No WC either, but who cares.
     
  7. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    There are a looooooooooooooooooooooot of rumors about Benny's behavior behind the scenes. Like.................fistfights with teammates at USMNT camp kind of behaviors.

    This is probably a good move for both teams. SKC dumped a 33 year old on a large salary. Probably dumped him a year before the inevitable decline. LAFC got themselves a nice piece to kick-start their franchise for a couple of years.

    As of right now LAFC doesn't look like they're going to be as good as Atlanta was last year, but they're going to be competitive. Still have a bunch of holes to fill. Don't they only have like.........................12 players on their roster?
     
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  8. TheFalseNine

    TheFalseNine Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Close. They have 11.

    https://www.lafc.com/roster
     
  9. Giggsy1986

    Giggsy1986 Member+

    Jan 27, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Carelton is so far away from the national team.... He is extremely skilled yes but a combo of [physical ability and current environment is going to greatly hamper his potential growth.
     
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  10. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is the way I see it. Getting thrown in to MLS or senior level matches before really ready doesn't do anyone favors.
     
  11. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Tommy Thompson is the player for whom minutes can't come fast enough. He is 22 now and ready to start in left or central midfield for an MLS team.
     
  12. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Don't see it that way, at all.

    There's no physical ability difference between MLS and the NT. If he gets regular playing time, I fully expect him to be on the NT within a few months.

    The bar isn't very high, we are putting out guys like Bedoya and Arriola in the attacking mid positions. Maybe he'd have to wait a year or two on a good NT.
     
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  13. TheFalseNine

    TheFalseNine Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    @ussoccer97531, do you see AC getting called in to camp next week?
     
  14. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    No, he's at the U-20 camp, and he shouldn't be called in. The NT is not a daycare for the best youngsters who are not yet regulars at the pro level. Its up to Martino (who we are told is a brilliant coach) to give him the minutes he deserves.
     
  15. TheFalseNine

    TheFalseNine Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Of course, forgot all about the YNT summit camp. Sorry 'bout that.
     
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  16. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Bedoya plays primarily as an '8' for the Union. He has been one of the better '8's in the league. Arriola is a flanker at DCU. Carleton's situation has nothing to do with that of the aforementioned two.

    USNT's speed of play is higher than MLS's. Also, players tend to get isolated more at NT level, so need to be able hold their own on both sides of the ball.
     
  17. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Bedoya has for years played as a winger and attacking mid (his club position doesn't matter if he plays different positions for the NT), Arriola plays winger.

    We have a bunch of nothing outside of Pulisic in the attacking positions. He had to create just about every goal we scored during WCQ.
     
  18. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A year "before" the inevitable decline? It seemed to me that we all saw a pretty massive decline in 2017.
     
  19. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    TT played every game of the season but two, and started half of those 32 games, so it's not bad at all. He played an hour in the Vancouver massacre too.
     
  20. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    That's a topic that should have been discussed more a long time ago. One thing I noticed early about American prejudices is that they favored players who couldn't play so they'd lose their man then try to recover and the blunderer who was best at sprinting 50 yds to cover a mistake was an automatic selection.

    It's easy to get lost in a mind maze on that stuff. The guy who has eyes in the back of his head and is always positioned just right is ignored not only by fans but by opponents who cant see a way thru.
     
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  21. HouseHead78

    HouseHead78 Member+

    Oct 17, 2006
    Austin, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good post

    And when our own team can't keep the ball, the relative value of runners over high IQ players increases, so you can see why they get chosen, but if they didn't get chosen, maybe we wouldn't be losing the ball all the time, etc, etc, etc
     
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  22. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    On My Squatty Potty
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You can be a brilliant coach and not prioritize youth.

    It's Carleton's fault for signing with a team which at that point barely even existed. What track record of ATL was he looking at when he signed on the dotted line?

    Martino was highly impressive as a first year MLS coach. He coached some of the most attractive ball the league has ever seen. Carleton is a separate issue.
     
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  23. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    For all the fawning from our soccer media (who bows down to anyone with a decent resume), he lost in the first round at home to a team with a much smaller budget, his penalty selections were extremely questionable. His team had a number of muscle injuries during a stretch in the season where his team played a lot of games, and that could mostly be attributed to his lack of squad rotation.
     
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  24. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Starting only half of those 32 games was not good for a player of his talent. I would like to see him become a more pivotal player in an MLS team.
     
  25. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006

    He didn't play as an a-mid for the US. He has transitioned to an '8' with the Union and will likely continue to play there for the US.

    Not really, bro.
     

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