MLS East v. West 2019

firefan2001 · Apr 7, 2019

newtex said: ↑

Standings in this thread are done Win-Tie-Loss and traditionally from the perspective of the defending champ conference. That means the 2019 standings week-to-week will be done from the side of the East since they won in 2018.

Teams will play one game against every team in the other conference this year. That means there will be a total of 144 inter-conference regular season games. Games in the CCL, Open Cup, and playoffs do not count.

Past results:

Yearly winners (W-T-L):

2018: EAST 56-25-51
2017: EAST 51-32-39
2016: WEST 38-30-32
2015: WEST 45-20-35
2014: WEST 36-26-28
2013: WEST 41-22-27
2012: EAST 35-23-32
2011: WEST 57-58-47
2010: WEST 60-33-35
2009: WEST 42-28-37
2008: EAST 42-20-36
2007: EAST 30-26-28
2006: EAST 26-21-25
2005: EAST 37-16-19
2004: WEST 27-19-24
2003: EAST 29-21-20
2002: WEST 33-8-19
2001: WEST 26-14-23
2000: CENTRAL 31-13-30
1999: WEST 35-18-19
1998: WEST 36-9-27
1997: EAST 30-22-28
1996: EAST 33-16-31
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So it's 12 West, 10 East and 1 Central

American Brummie · Apr 8, 2019

While newtex is right - the series is all tied up - this last week was very bad for the East.

2019 AT CH CN CB DC MT NE NC NR OR PH TR CO DL HO LF LG MN PR RS SE SJ SK VN

ATL

CHI 2:4

CIN 3:0 1:1

CLB 1:0

DCU 0:4 5:0

MNT

NER 2:1

NYC 2:2

NYR 1:2 4:1

ORL 4:3

PHI 2:1

TRN

COL

FCD 1:1

HOU 2:1

LAF

LAG 2:1

MIN

POR

RSL

SEA 4:1

SJQ 1:2

SPK 7:1 2:0

VAN

The East gave up two home games, and one - the DC United loss - erased the East's goal-difference lead altogether and now the East is four goals behind. The West has a home PPG of 2.29 (from seven games), compared to the 1.92 PPG of the East. With games in hand, the West stands a very good chance of retaking the title if they continue to eke out just a few more wins in away stadia.

2019 HOME HOME HOME AWAY AWAY AWAY TOTS TOTS TOTS

2019 WINS TIES LOSS WINS TIES LOSS G.S. G.A. G.D.

EAST 7.00 2.00 3.00 1.00 1.00 5.00 34.00 38.00 -4.00

WEST 5.00 1.00 1.00 3.00 2.00 7.00 38.00 34.00 4.00

ATLU 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00

CHIC 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 3.00 6.00 -3.00

CINC 1.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 5.00 5.00 0.00

CLBS 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 1.00

DCUD 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 5.00 4.00 1.00

MONT 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 2.00 4.00 10.00 -6.00

NERV 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 3.00 2.00 1.00

NYFC 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.00 2.00 0.00

NYRB 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 5.00 3.00 2.00

ORLD 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 4.00 3.00 1.00

PHIL 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 2.00 3.00 -1.00

TORN 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00

COLO 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 3.00 4.00 -1.00

FCDS 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.00 2.00 4.00 -2.00

HOUS 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.00 1.00 1.00

LAFC 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 4.00 0.00 4.00

LAGA 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 4.00 3.00 1.00

MINN 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 3.00 3.00 0.00

PORT 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 3.00 -3.00

RSLK 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 5.00 -5.00

SEAT 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 8.00 3.00 5.00

SJEQ 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 2.00 6.00 -4.00

SPKC 2.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 10.00 2.00 8.00

VANC 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00

Some interesting tidbits:

1) The East's woes may be worsened due to the fact that Atlanta (12th East) has not played a game yet. However, Toronto (2nd East) has also not played an inter-conference game, while Vancouver (11th West) has not played an inter-conference game.

2) At the other end, some teams are definitely getting their game in. Montreal, Cincinnati, Dallas, and Kansas City have all played three times so far. In Montreal's case, all three have been away games!

3) With 19 games played, we are in a comparable position to 2017's April 3rd posting of mine (I did not participate in 2018 and do not have the statistics to back it up); at that point, 21 games had been played, and the West had a +5 GD and the East had a +3 lead in points. That it is close now and close then is mostly due to the relatively short sample size, but I think we can also give a hand to the hard-working server at Major League Soccer, who tirelessly computed algorithms to ensure the schedule was as balanced as possible.

2019 TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS PTSA

2019 TGP. PTS. GPG. PPG. GAPG GLFT 2018

EAST 19.00 27.00 1.79 1.42 2.00 125.00 -99.00

WEST 19.00 27.00 2.00 1.42 1.79 125.00 -117.00

ATLU 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 12.00 -14.00

CHIC 2.00 0.00 1.50 0.00 3.00 10.00 -6.00

CINC 3.00 4.00 1.67 1.33 1.67 9.00 0.00

CLBS 1.00 3.00 1.00 3.00 0.00 11.00 -8.00

DCUD 2.00 3.00 2.50 1.50 2.00 10.00 -9.00

MONT 3.00 3.00 1.33 1.00 3.33 9.00 -14.00

NERV 2.00 4.00 1.50 2.00 1.00 10.00 -8.00

NYFC 1.00 1.00 2.00 1.00 2.00 11.00 -19.00

NYRB 2.00 3.00 2.50 1.50 1.50 10.00 -21.00

ORLD 1.00 3.00 4.00 3.00 3.00 11.00 -9.00

PHIL 2.00 3.00 1.00 1.50 1.50 10.00 -7.00

TORN 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 12.00 -4.00

COLO 1.00 0.00 3.00 0.00 4.00 11.00 -7.00

FCDS 3.00 1.00 0.67 0.33 1.33 9.00 -17.00

HOUS 1.00 3.00 2.00 3.00 1.00 11.00 -10.00

LAFC 1.00 3.00 4.00 3.00 0.00 11.00 -11.00

LAGA 2.00 4.00 2.00 2.00 1.50 10.00 -15.00

MINN 2.00 3.00 1.50 1.50 1.50 10.00 -12.00

PORT 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.00 11.00 -9.00

RSLK 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 5.00 11.00 -10.00

SEAT 2.00 6.00 4.00 3.00 1.50 10.00 -7.00

SJEQ 2.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 3.00 10.00 -2.00

SPKC 3.00 7.00 3.33 2.33 0.67 9.00 -4.00

VANC 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 12.00 -14.00

newtex · Apr 14, 2019

Week 7 results:
CHI 1-1 VAN
SEA 3-2 TOR
MIN 3-3 NYC
COR 2-3 DCU
RSL 2-1 ORL
LAG 2-0 PHI
LAX 2-0 CIN
SKC 2-2 NYR

The West wins the week with 4 wins and 3 draws against only 1 loss. That makes the East 9-6-12.

Standings are W-T-L. Teams are ranked by Points Earned.

EAST
DCU 2-0-1
NER 1-1-0
NYR 1-1-1
CIN 1-1-2
CLB 1-0-0
ORL 1-0-1
PHI 1-0-2
MTL 1-0-2
NYC 0-2-0
CHI 0-1-2
ATL 0-0-0
TOR 0-0-1

WEST
SEA 3-0-0
SKC 2-2-0
LAX 2-1-0
LAG 2-0-0
MIN 1-1-1
HOU 1-0-0
RSL 1-0-1
VAN 0-1-0
FCD 0-1-2
POR 0-0-1
COR 0-0-2
SJE 0-0-2

Week 8 fixtures:
CIN v. RSL
TOR v. MIN
CHI v. COR
ORL v. VAN
ATL v. FCD
CLB v. POR

American Brummie · Apr 15, 2019

My tables below. I'm heading off for two weeks of hiking, so I won't post again until I get back.

2019 AT CH CN CB DC MT NE NC NR OR PH TR CO DL HO LF LG MN PR RS SE SJ SK VN

ATL

CHI 2:4 1:1

CIN 3:0 1:1

CLB 1:0

DCU 0:4 5:0

MNT

NER 2:1

NYC 2:2

NYR 1:2 4:1

ORL 4:3

PHI 2:1

TRN

COL 2:3

FCD 1:1

HOU 2:1

LAF 2:0

LAG 2:1 2:0

MIN 3:3

POR

RSL 2:1

SEA 4:1 3:2

SJQ 1:2

SPK 7:1 2:2 2:0

VAN

The West has a 9-point and 9-goal lead at this point.

2019 HOME HOME HOME AWAY AWAY AWAY TOTS TOTS TOTS

2019 WINS TIES LOSS WINS TIES LOSS G.S. G.A. G.D.

EAST 7.00 3.00 3.00 2.00 3.00 9.00 46.00 55.00 -9.00

WEST 9.00 3.00 2.00 3.00 3.00 7.00 55.00 46.00 9.00

ATLU 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00

CHIC 0.00 1.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 4.00 7.00 -3.00

CINC 1.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.00 5.00 7.00 -2.00

CLBS 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 1.00

DCUD 1.00 0.00 1.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 8.00 6.00 2.00

MONT 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 2.00 4.00 10.00 -6.00

NERV 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 3.00 2.00 1.00

NYFC 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 5.00 5.00 0.00

NYRB 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 7.00 5.00 2.00

ORLD 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 5.00 5.00 0.00

PHIL 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.00 2.00 5.00 -3.00

TORN 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 2.00 3.00 -1.00

COLO 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 5.00 7.00 -2.00

FCDS 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.00 2.00 4.00 -2.00

HOUS 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.00 1.00 1.00

LAFC 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 6.00 0.00 6.00

LAGA 2.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 6.00 3.00 3.00

MINN 0.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 6.00 6.00 0.00

PORT 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 3.00 -3.00

RSLK 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 2.00 6.00 -4.00

SEAT 2.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 11.00 5.00 6.00

SJEQ 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 2.00 6.00 -4.00

SPKC 2.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 12.00 4.00 8.00

VANC 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 1.00 0.00

2019 TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS PTSA

2019 TGP. PTS. GPG. PPG. GAPG GLFT 2018

EAST 27.00 33.00 1.70 1.22 2.04 117.00 -93.00

WEST 27.00 42.00 2.04 1.56 1.70 117.00 -102.00

ATLU 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 12.00 -14.00

CHIC 3.00 1.00 1.33 0.33 2.33 9.00 -5.00

CINC 4.00 4.00 1.25 1.00 1.75 8.00 0.00

CLBS 1.00 3.00 1.00 3.00 0.00 11.00 -8.00

DCUD 3.00 6.00 2.67 2.00 2.00 9.00 -6.00

MONT 3.00 3.00 1.33 1.00 3.33 9.00 -14.00

NERV 2.00 4.00 1.50 2.00 1.00 10.00 -8.00

NYFC 2.00 2.00 2.50 1.00 2.50 10.00 -18.00

NYRB 3.00 4.00 2.33 1.33 1.67 9.00 -20.00

ORLD 2.00 3.00 2.50 1.50 2.50 10.00 -9.00

PHIL 3.00 3.00 0.67 1.00 1.67 9.00 -7.00

TORN 1.00 0.00 2.00 0.00 3.00 11.00 -4.00

COLO 2.00 0.00 2.50 0.00 3.50 10.00 -7.00

FCDS 3.00 1.00 0.67 0.33 1.33 9.00 -17.00

HOUS 1.00 3.00 2.00 3.00 1.00 11.00 -10.00

LAFC 2.00 6.00 3.00 3.00 0.00 10.00 -8.00

LAGA 3.00 7.00 2.00 2.33 1.00 9.00 -12.00

MINN 3.00 4.00 2.00 1.33 2.00 9.00 -11.00

PORT 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.00 11.00 -9.00

RSLK 2.00 3.00 1.00 1.50 3.00 10.00 -7.00

SEAT 3.00 9.00 3.67 3.00 1.67 9.00 -4.00

SJEQ 2.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 3.00 10.00 -2.00

SPKC 4.00 8.00 3.00 2.00 1.00 8.00 -3.00

VANC 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 11.00 -13.00

newtex · Apr 15, 2019

Shield Standings by PPG (4/15/19)

1. LAX 2.71
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2. SEA 2.67
3. HOU 2.60
4. LAG 2.50
5. DCU 2.00
6. TOR 2.00
7. CLB 1.86
8. FCD 1.86
9. MIN 1.67
10. MTL 1.57
11. SKC 1.50
12. PHI 1.43
13. CIN 1.14
14. ORL 1.14
15. ATL 1.00
16. CHI 1.00
17. RSL 1.00
18. NYR 0.83
19. NYC 0.83
20. NER 0.57
21. SJE 0.50
22. VAN 0.33
23. COR 0.29
24. POR 0.17

The split in the West is pretty amazing with the top AND bottom 4 teams in the league. Kind of distracts from noticing that the West has 7 of the top 11 teams overall.

xbhaskarx · Apr 15, 2019

newtex said: ↑

The split in the West is pretty amazing with the top AND bottom 4 teams in the league. Kind of distracts from noticing that the West has 7 of the top 11 teams overall.
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Don't tell Charlie Davies

https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019...-western-conferencen-taken-over?autoplay=true

newtex · Apr 21, 2019

Week 8 results:
CIN 0-3 RSL
TOR 4-3 MIN
CHI 4-1 COR
ORL 1-0 VAN
ATL 1-2 FCD
CLB 1-3 POR

The week is split with 3 wins each way. That makes the East 12-6-15.

Standings are W-T-L. Teams are ranked by Points Earned.

EAST
DCU 2-0-1
ORL 2-0-1
NER 1-1-0
NYR 1-1-1
CHI 1-1-2
CIN 1-1-3
CLB 1-0-1
TOR 1-0-1
PHI 1-0-2
MTL 1-0-2
NYC 0-2-0
ATL 0-0-1

WEST
SEA 3-0-0
SKC 2-2-0
LAX 2-1-0
LAG 2-0-0
RSL 2-0-1
VAN 1-1-0
MIN 1-1-2
FCD 1-1-2
HOU 1-0-0
POR 1-0-1
SJE 0-0-2
COR 0-0-3

Week 9 fixtures:
TOR v. POR
VAN v. PHI
ATL v. COR
HOU v. CLB
SKC v. NER
MIN v. DCU

EvanJ · Apr 21, 2019

The week was split with the East hosting every game. It would be good to give the cumulative record at East teams and at West teams every week rather than just the total.

newtex · Apr 22, 2019

EvanJ said: ↑

The week was split with the East hosting every game. It would be good to give the cumulative record at East teams and at West teams every week rather than just the total.
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Brummie gives those stats in his updates. He is on vacation but he will be back.

At the moment:

Home Games (W-T-L)
East: 10-3-6
West: 9-3-2

newtex · Apr 28, 2019

Week 9 results:
TOR 1-2 POR
VAN 1-1 PHI
ATL 1-0 COR
HOU 2-0 CLB
SKC 4-4 NER
MIN 1-0 DCU

The West wins the week winning 3 games and having 2 draws against 1 loss. That makes the East 13-8-18.

Home Games (W-T-L)
East: 11-3-7
West: 11-5-2

Standings are W-T-L. Teams are ranked by Points Earned.

EAST
ORL 2-0-1
DCU 2-0-2
NER 1-2-0
NYR 1-1-1
CHI 1-1-2
PHI 1-1-2
CIN 1-1-3
ATL 1-0-1
CLB 1-0-2
TOR 1-0-2
MTL 1-0-2
NYC 0-2-0

WEST
SEA 3-0-0
SKC 2-3-0
LAX 2-1-0
MIN 2-1-2
LAG 2-0-0
HOU 2-0-0
RSL 2-0-1
POR 2-0-1
VAN 1-2-0
FCD 1-1-2
SJE 0-0-2
COR 0-0-4

Week 10 fixtures:
NYR v. LAG
SJE v. CIN
LAX v. CHI
SKC v. ATL

American Brummie · Apr 29, 2019

Back from holiday! The last two weeks have, in my mind, helped solidify the West's lead. The teams most hurting the East in its bid for the repeat are about half the Conference: seven teams have lost at home, compared to only two Western teams. Yes, the East has played 21 of the 39 matches, but that's damn near half and they're getting slaughtered: East 1.71 PPG versus West 2.11 PPG. It's just not great. The thirteen-goal deficit is not helping, either.

2019 AT CH CN CB DC MT NE NC NR OR PH TR CO DL HO LF LG MN PR RS SE SJ SK VN

ATL 1:0 1:2

CHI 4:1 2:4 1:1

CIN 3:0 0:3 1:1

CLB 1:0 1:3

DCU 0:4 5:0

MNT

NER 2:1

NYC 2:2

NYR 1:2 4:1

ORL 4:3 1:0

PHI 2:1

TRN 4:3 1:2

COL 2:3

FCD 1:1

HOU 2:0 2:1

LAF 2:0

LAG 2:1 2:0

MIN 1:0 3:3

POR

RSL 2:1

SEA 4:1 3:2

SJQ 1:2

SPK 7:1 4:4 2:2 2:0

VAN 1:1

2019 HOME HOME HOME AWAY AWAY AWAY TOTS TOTS TOTS

2019 WINS TIES LOSS WINS TIES LOSS G.S. G.A. G.D.

EAST 11.00 3.00 7.00 2.00 5.00 11.00 64.00 77.00 -13.00

WEST 11.00 5.00 2.00 7.00 3.00 11.00 77.00 64.00 13.00

ATLU 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.00 2.00 0.00

CHIC 1.00 1.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 8.00 8.00 0.00

CINC 1.00 1.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 2.00 5.00 10.00 -5.00

CLBS 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 2.00 5.00 -3.00

DCUD 1.00 0.00 1.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 8.00 7.00 1.00

MONT 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 2.00 4.00 10.00 -6.00

NERV 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.00 0.00 7.00 6.00 1.00

NYFC 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 5.00 5.00 0.00

NYRB 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 7.00 5.00 2.00

ORLD 2.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 6.00 5.00 1.00

PHIL 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 2.00 3.00 6.00 -3.00

TORN 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 7.00 8.00 -1.00

COLO 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 3.00 6.00 12.00 -6.00

FCDS 0.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 2.00 4.00 5.00 -1.00

HOUS 2.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 4.00 1.00 3.00

LAFC 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 6.00 0.00 6.00

LAGA 2.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 6.00 3.00 3.00

MINN 1.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 2.00 10.00 10.00 0.00

PORT 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.00 0.00 1.00 5.00 5.00 0.00

RSLK 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 5.00 6.00 -1.00

SEAT 2.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 11.00 5.00 6.00

SJEQ 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 2.00 6.00 -4.00

SPKC 2.00 2.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 16.00 8.00 8.00

VANC 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 1.00 2.00 3.00 -1.00

2019 TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS PTSA

2019 TGP. PTS. GPG. PPG. GAPG GLFT 2018

EAST 39.00 47.00 1.64 1.21 1.97 105.00 -79.00

WEST 39.00 62.00 1.97 1.59 1.64 105.00 -82.00

ATLU 2.00 3.00 1.00 1.50 1.00 10.00 -11.00

CHIC 4.00 4.00 2.00 1.00 2.00 8.00 -2.00

CINC 5.00 4.00 1.00 0.80 2.00 7.00 0.00

CLBS 3.00 3.00 0.67 1.00 1.67 9.00 -8.00

DCUD 4.00 6.00 2.00 1.50 1.75 8.00 -6.00

MONT 3.00 3.00 1.33 1.00 3.33 9.00 -14.00

NERV 3.00 5.00 2.33 1.67 2.00 9.00 -7.00

NYFC 2.00 2.00 2.50 1.00 2.50 10.00 -18.00

NYRB 3.00 4.00 2.33 1.33 1.67 9.00 -20.00

ORLD 3.00 6.00 2.00 2.00 1.67 9.00 -6.00

PHIL 4.00 4.00 0.75 1.00 1.50 8.00 -6.00

TORN 3.00 3.00 2.33 1.00 2.67 9.00 -1.00

COLO 4.00 0.00 1.50 0.00 3.00 8.00 -7.00

FCDS 4.00 4.00 1.00 1.00 1.25 8.00 -14.00

HOUS 2.00 6.00 2.00 3.00 0.50 10.00 -7.00

LAFC 2.00 6.00 3.00 3.00 0.00 10.00 -8.00

LAGA 3.00 7.00 2.00 2.33 1.00 9.00 -12.00

MINN 5.00 7.00 2.00 1.40 2.00 7.00 -8.00

PORT 3.00 6.00 1.67 2.00 1.67 9.00 -3.00

RSLK 3.00 6.00 1.67 2.00 2.00 9.00 -4.00

SEAT 3.00 9.00 3.67 3.00 1.67 9.00 -4.00

SJEQ 2.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 3.00 10.00 -2.00

SPKC 5.00 9.00 3.20 1.80 1.60 7.00 -2.00

VANC 3.00 2.00 0.67 0.67 1.00 9.00 -12.00

newtex · Apr 29, 2019

newtex said: ↑

Shield Standings by PPG (4/15/19)

1. LAX 2.71
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2. SEA 2.67
3. HOU 2.60
4. LAG 2.50
5. DCU 2.00
6. TOR 2.00
7. CLB 1.86
8. FCD 1.86
9. MIN 1.67
10. MTL 1.57
11. SKC 1.50
12. PHI 1.43
13. CIN 1.14
14. ORL 1.14
15. ATL 1.00
16. CHI 1.00
17. RSL 1.00
18. NYR 0.83
19. NYC 0.83
20. NER 0.57
21. SJE 0.50
22. VAN 0.33
23. COR 0.29
24. POR 0.17

The split in the West is pretty amazing with the top AND bottom 4 teams in the league. Kind of distracts from noticing that the West has 7 of the top 11 teams overall.
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Shield Standings by PPG (4/29/19)

1. LAG 2.44
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2. LAX 2.30
3. HOU 2.29
4. SEA 2.00
5. FCD 1.89
6. TOR 1.86
7. DCU 1.70
8. MTL 1.70
9. MIN 1.56
10. PHI 1.56
11. ORL 1.33
12. NYC 1.33
13. CLB 1.30
14. SKC 1.25
15. ATL 1.14
16. RSL 1.11
17. CHI 1.00
18. NYR 1.00
19. CIN 0.89
20. SJE 0.89
21. POR 0.88
22. NER 0.80
23. VAN 0.67
24. COR 0.22

The West now has the top 5 teams in the league but New England is now breaking up the West also having the bottom 4.

The Galaxy moved up from #4 to #1. Dallas also moved up 3 spots. The biggest move up was NYCFC from #19 to #12.

Columbus dropped all the way from #7 to #13. Cincy dropped from #13 to #19.

SiberianThunderT · Apr 29, 2019

newtex said: ↑

Standings are W-T-L. Teams are ranked by Points Earned.
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newtex said: ↑

Shield Standings by PPG (4/29/19)The West now has the top 5 teams in the league but New England is now breaking up the West also having the bottom 4.
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It's interesting to me that the Eastern teams seems to splitting games against the West, while Western teams are largely feast-or-famine against the East. There are 5 Western teams with at least 2 more vEast wins than losses, and 2 Western teams with at least 2 more losses than wins, but only 1 such Eastern team (CIN). I want this to explain the big chasm in the West, (i.e. to say the West teams are differentiated mostly by how they play against the East,) but it only does so slightly. We're still in low-data-land, though...

American Brummie · Apr 29, 2019

SiberianThunderT said: ↑

We're still in low-data-land, though...
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Not really. With 39 games in and 105 to go, there's enough here to start the projections. The East is definitely behind.

SiberianThunderT · Apr 29, 2019

American Brummie said: ↑

Not really. With 39 games in and 105 to go, there's enough here to start the projections. The East is definitely behind.
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Depends entirely on the analysis you're doing. For what I was mentioning above, which is a team-by-team thing, just having 2-4 interconference games (and, in some cases, 5 or fewer intraconference games) per team isn't much to go by.

Besides, I wasn't saying the East wasn't behind by any means. Dunno where you got that from...?

newtex · Apr 29, 2019

SiberianThunderT said: ↑

It's interesting to me that the Eastern teams seems to splitting games against the West, while Western teams are largely feast-or-famine against the East. There are 5 Western teams with at least 2 more vEast wins than losses, and 2 Western teams with at least 2 more losses than wins, but only 1 such Eastern team (CIN). I want this to explain the big chasm in the West, (i.e. to say the West teams are differentiated mostly by how they play against the East,) but it only does so slightly. We're still in low-data-land, though...
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The wins by the top teams in the West against the East are helping the imbalance but those top 5 are mostly beating everyone.

Ranked by PPG, (W-T-L)

1. LAG 7-1-1 overall, 2-0-0 against the East
2. LAX 7-2-1 overall, 2-1-0 against the East
3. HOU 5-1-1 overall, 2-0-0 against the East
4. SEA 5-3-1 overall, 3-0-0 against the East
5. FCD 5-2-2 overall, 1-1-2 against the East

Those five teams have 10 of the 18 wins against the East and only Dallas has lost. But they also have 19 wins against the West and just 6 losses total out of 44 games. Half those six losses have come against each other.

It seems to me that mostly those 5 teams are just better than the rest of the league right now and that shows up in different ways. Things will probably change. Those five teams have all had 5 or 6 home games each so far. Six of the bottom teams in the West have had 24 total home games so far or just 4 apiece. And Portland hasn't had any.

SiberianThunderT · Apr 29, 2019

newtex said: ↑

The wins by the top teams in the West against the East are helping the imbalance but those top 5 are mostly beating everyone.
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Yeah, that's partially why I was saying earlier that it only slightly explains the big chasm in the West. You also have the struggling COR and SJE whose only points so far have been against Western competition - but even then, it's been mostly against the lower half of the West and not the upper half. And that's not even considering the like of FCD and VAN, which are bucking the "trend".

Mateofelipe · Apr 29, 2019

Weird. From the looks of things, the West has 6 good to excellent teams, and the East has Montreal as the Beasts, given how few they have played at home. But this is not reflected in the record. Whiskey L'Foxtrot? EDIT: I am missing something in all those numbers. What is the W-L-T record of East v. West so far? You are outdoing the AAQ African Swallow vs. Condor etc. etc. etc. for burying the lead

newtex · Apr 29, 2019

Mateofelipe said: ↑

Weird. From the looks of things, the West has 6 good to excellent teams, and the East has Montreal as the Beasts, given how few they have played at home. But this is not reflected in the record. Whiskey L'Foxtrot? EDIT: I am missing something in all those numbers. What is the W-L-T record of East v. West so far? You are outdoing the AAQ African Swallow vs. Condor etc. etc. etc. for burying the lead
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The East is 13-8-18 (W-T-L) against the West after the games of week 9. That is in post #35 of this thread.

American Brummie · Apr 30, 2019

Mateofelipe said: ↑

What is the W-L-T record of East v. West so far? You are outdoing the AAQ African Swallow vs. Condor etc. etc. etc. for burying the lead
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And in post #36, the second table breaks that down into Home and Away for each conference (rows 3 & 4, columns 2:7).

newtex · May 5, 2019

Week 10 results:
NYR 3-2 LAG
SJE 1-0 CIN
LAX 0-0 CHI
SKC 0-3 ATL

The East wins the week with 2 wins and a draw against 1 loss. That makes the East 15-9-19.

Standings are W-T-L. Teams are ranked by Points Earned.

EAST
NYR 2-1-1
ORL 2-0-1
ATL 2-0-1
DCU 2-0-2
NER 1-2-0
CHI 1-2-2
PHI 1-1-2
CIN 1-1-4
CLB 1-0-2
TOR 1-0-2
MTL 1-0-2
NYC 0-2-0

WEST
SEA 3-0-0
SKC 2-3-1
LAX 2-2-0
MIN 2-1-2
HOU 2-0-0
LAG 2-0-1
RSL 2-0-1
POR 2-0-1
VAN 1-2-0
FCD 1-1-2
SJE 1-0-2
COR 0-0-4

Week 11 fixtures:
CLB v. LAG
FCD v. NYR
LAG v. NYC
CLB v. LAX
NER v. SJE
CHI v. MIN
DCU v. SKC

American Brummie · May 6, 2019

East makes gains, pulls the deficit back to twelve points and ten goals.

2019 AT CH CN CB DC MT NE NC NR OR PH TR CO DL HO LF LG MN PR RS SE SJ SK VN

ATL 1:0 1:2

CHI 4:1 2:4 1:1

CIN 3:0 0:3 1:1

CLB 1:0 1:3

DCU 0:4 5:0

MNT

NER 2:1

NYC 2:2

NYR 3:2 1:2 4:1

ORL 4:3 1:0

PHI 2:1

TRN 4:3 1:2

COL 2:3

FCD 1:1

HOU 2:0 2:1

LAF 0:0 2:0

LAG 2:1 2:0

MIN 1:0 3:3

POR

RSL 2:1

SEA 4:1 3:2

SJQ 1:0 1:2

SPK 0:3 7:1 4:4 2:2 2:0

VAN 1:1

2019 HOME HOME HOME AWAY AWAY AWAY TOTS TOTS TOTS

2019 WINS TIES LOSS WINS TIES LOSS G.S. G.A. G.D.

EAST 12.00 3.00 7.00 3.00 6.00 12.00 70.00 80.00 -10.00

WEST 12.00 6.00 3.00 7.00 3.00 12.00 80.00 70.00 10.00

ATLU 1.00 0.00 1.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 5.00 2.00 3.00

CHIC 1.00 1.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 1.00 8.00 8.00 0.00

CINC 1.00 1.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 3.00 5.00 11.00 -6.00

CLBS 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 2.00 5.00 -3.00

DCUD 1.00 0.00 1.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 8.00 7.00 1.00

MONT 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 2.00 4.00 10.00 -6.00

NERV 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.00 0.00 7.00 6.00 1.00

NYFC 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 5.00 5.00 0.00

NYRB 2.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 10.00 7.00 3.00

ORLD 2.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 6.00 5.00 1.00

PHIL 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 2.00 3.00 6.00 -3.00

TORN 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 7.00 8.00 -1.00

COLO 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 3.00 6.00 12.00 -6.00

FCDS 0.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 2.00 4.00 5.00 -1.00

HOUS 2.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 4.00 1.00 3.00

LAFC 1.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 6.00 0.00 6.00

LAGA 2.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 1.00 8.00 6.00 2.00

MINN 1.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 2.00 10.00 10.00 0.00

PORT 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.00 0.00 1.00 5.00 5.00 0.00

RSLK 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 5.00 6.00 -1.00

SEAT 2.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 11.00 5.00 6.00

SJEQ 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 3.00 6.00 -3.00

SPKC 2.00 2.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 16.00 11.00 5.00

VANC 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 1.00 2.00 3.00 -1.00

2019 TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS PTSA

2019 TGP. PTS. GPG. PPG. GAPG GLFT 2018

EAST 43.00 54.00 1.63 1.26 1.86 101.00 -72.00

WEST 43.00 66.00 1.86 1.53 1.63 101.00 -78.00

ATLU 3.00 6.00 1.67 2.00 0.67 9.00 -8.00

CHIC 5.00 5.00 1.60 1.00 1.60 7.00 -1.00

CINC 6.00 4.00 0.83 0.67 1.83 6.00 0.00

CLBS 3.00 3.00 0.67 1.00 1.67 9.00 -8.00

DCUD 4.00 6.00 2.00 1.50 1.75 8.00 -6.00

MONT 3.00 3.00 1.33 1.00 3.33 9.00 -14.00

NERV 3.00 5.00 2.33 1.67 2.00 9.00 -7.00

NYFC 2.00 2.00 2.50 1.00 2.50 10.00 -18.00

NYRB 4.00 7.00 2.50 1.75 1.75 8.00 -17.00

ORLD 3.00 6.00 2.00 2.00 1.67 9.00 -6.00

PHIL 4.00 4.00 0.75 1.00 1.50 8.00 -6.00

TORN 3.00 3.00 2.33 1.00 2.67 9.00 -1.00

COLO 4.00 0.00 1.50 0.00 3.00 8.00 -7.00

FCDS 4.00 4.00 1.00 1.00 1.25 8.00 -14.00

HOUS 2.00 6.00 2.00 3.00 0.50 10.00 -7.00

LAFC 3.00 7.00 2.00 2.33 0.00 9.00 -7.00

LAGA 4.00 7.00 2.00 1.75 1.50 8.00 -12.00

MINN 5.00 7.00 2.00 1.40 2.00 7.00 -8.00

PORT 3.00 6.00 1.67 2.00 1.67 9.00 -3.00

RSLK 3.00 6.00 1.67 2.00 2.00 9.00 -4.00

SEAT 3.00 9.00 3.67 3.00 1.67 9.00 -4.00

SJEQ 3.00 3.00 1.00 1.00 2.00 9.00 1.00

SPKC 6.00 9.00 2.67 1.50 1.83 6.00 -2.00

VANC 3.00 2.00 0.67 0.67 1.00 9.00 -12.00

newtex · May 6, 2019

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Shield Standings by PPG (4/29/19)

1. LAG 2.44
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2. LAX 2.30
3. HOU 2.29
4. SEA 2.00
5. FCD 1.89
6. TOR 1.86
7. DCU 1.70
8. MTL 1.70
9. MIN 1.56
10. PHI 1.56
11. ORL 1.33
12. NYC 1.33
13. CLB 1.30
14. SKC 1.25
15. ATL 1.14
16. RSL 1.11
17. CHI 1.00
18. NYR 1.00
19. CIN 0.89
20. SJE 0.89
21. POR 0.88
22. NER 0.80
23. VAN 0.67
24. COR 0.22

The West now has the top 5 teams in the league but New England is now breaking up the West also having the bottom 4.

The Galaxy moved up from #4 to #1. Dallas also moved up 3 spots. The biggest move up was NYCFC from #19 to #12.

Columbus dropped all the way from #7 to #13. Cincy dropped from #13 to #19.
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Shield Standings by PPG (5/6/19)

1. HOU 2.38
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2. LAG 2.20
3. LAX 2.18
4. TOR 2.00
5. SEA 1.90
6. PHI 1.82
7. DCU 1.82
8. FCD 1.70
9. MTL 1.55
10. MIN 1.50
11. NYC 1.50
12. ATL 1.38
13. NYR 1.22
14. ORL 1.20
15. CLB 1.18
16. POR 1.11
17. SKC 1.11
18. SJE 1.10
19. RSL 1.00
20. CHI 1.00
21. VAN 0.90
22. CIN 0.73
23. NER 0.73
24. COR 0.20

The West still has the top 3 spots but things are getting much more scrambled down the table.

Several teams dropped 3 spots this week. The Red Bulls and Portland jumped up 5 spots while Philly went up 4.

SiberianThunderT · May 6, 2019

newtex said: ↑

1. HOU 2.38
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2. LAG 2.20
3. LAX 2.18
4. TOR 2.00
5. SEA 1.90
6. PHI 1.82
7. DCU 1.82
8. FCD 1.70
9. MTL 1.55
10. MIN 1.50
11. NYC 1.50
12. ATL 1.38
13. NYR 1.22
14. ORL 1.20
15. CLB 1.18
16. POR 1.11
17. SKC 1.11
18. SJE 1.10
19. RSL 1.00
20. CHI 1.00
21. VAN 0.90
22. CIN 0.73
23. NER 0.73
24. COR 0.20
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There are only 5 teams out of 24 with PPGs between 1.82 and 1.22, not inclusive. That's a pretty sparse gap in the middle of the table. To put that in perspective, half of previous Shield winners had less than 1.82 PPG, and likewise 1.22 PPG hasn't made the playoffs since 2006. Before ATL beat SKC yesterday, it was 4 teams between 1.82 and 1.25, meaning there were three teams in playoff positions (SKC, NYR, and POR) despite those extremely low PPG.

newtex · May 6, 2019

SiberianThunderT said: ↑

There are only 5 teams out of 24 with PPGs between 1.82 and 1.22, not inclusive. That's a pretty sparse gap in the middle of the table. To put that in perspective, half of previous Shield winners had less than 1.82 PPG, and likewise 1.22 PPG hasn't made the playoffs since 2006. Before ATL beat SKC yesterday, it was 4 teams between 1.82 and 1.25, meaning there were three teams (SKC, NYR, and ORL) in the top 14 and three in playoff positions (SKC, NYR, and POR) despite those extremely low PPG.
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There will be some regression to the mean. I'd guess there will be a lot more teams in that 1.22 to 1.82 zone by the end of the year.