MLS East v. West 2017

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by American Brummie, Feb 9, 2017.

  1. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Country:
    United States
    If there are 10 draws and 62 win/loss games, the conference would finish equal if the West won 35 and lost 27. In that case the West would have 115 points, the East would have 91 points, and the West will have gotten 55.8% of the remaining points. The reason this is different from what I underlined is that your 56.5% was neglecting that fact that wins and losses must be whole numbers. If you take 56.5% and multiply by the 206 points that East vs. West games would have if 10 of them are draws, you get 116.39. That's 117 when rounded up to the nearest whole number, but if 10 out of 72 East vs. West games are draws, it's impossible for the West to get exactly 117 points against the East. I rounded up because the if the West needs at least 116.39 points, 116 isn't enough. To provide a simple example, let's say Team X is done playing and has 1 more point and the tiebreaker over Team Y, who has 1 game left. Team Y needs a win to pass Team X. Team Y could pass Team X by getting 2 more points, but that's impossible to get from 1 game, so everybody will say "Team Y needs a win" rather than "Team Y needs at least 2 points." If there are 23 East vs. West draws, the West would need 9 more wins than the East to finish ahead of the East, with it being impossible to have the East and West have the same amount of points. In that case there would be 29 wins for the West and 20 for the East. The West would need to get 57.0% of the remaining points.
     
    American Brummie repped this.
  2. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Week 13 results:
    CHI 2-1 FCD
    VAN 0-1 DCU
    MIN 1-0 ORL
    RSL 1-0 PHI

    This week is split with 2 wins each way. The West is now 15-16-23 overall.

    Standings are W-T-L. Teams are ranked by Points Earned.

    EAST
    TFC 4-2-0
    CHI 4-1-0
    NER 3-3-2
    ATL 3-2-0
    ORL 2-2-2
    PHI 2-2-2
    DCU 1-1-0
    NYC 1-1-1
    MTL 1-1-3
    NYR 1-1-4
    CLB 1-0-1

    WEST
    HOU 3-0-4
    LAG 2-2-1
    RSL 2-2-3
    SKC 1-3-0
    SEA 1-3-2
    SJE 1-2-1
    POR 1-2-2
    FCD 1-1-1
    VAN 1-1-2
    MIN 1-0-3
    COR 1-0-4

    Week 14 fixtures:
    CLB v. SEA
    VAN v. ATL
    DCU v. LAG
    COR v. CLB
     
  3. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Country:
    United States
    My (late) turn.

    2017ATLCHICLBDCUMNTNERNYCNYRORLPHITRNCOLFCDHOULAGMINPORRSLSEASJQSPKVAN
    ATL4:1
    CHI3:02:12:04:1
    CLB3:2
    DCU0:0
    MNT4:12:21:2
    NER2:05:24:00:0
    NYC2:1
    NYR1:01:30:0
    ORL2:02:12:2
    PHI2:12:01:3
    TRN2:03:20:0
    COL1:0
    FCD2:11:1
    HOU3:14:14:0
    LAG2:22:00:0
    MIN1:61:0
    POR1:11:1
    RSL1:32:11:00:0
    SEA0:03:33:10:1
    SJQ1:01:1
    SPK2:0
    VAN0:10:00:2



    And then the other two:

    2017HOMEHOMEHOMEAWAYAWAYAWAYTOTSTOTSTOTS
    2017WINS TIESLOSSWINS TIESLOSSG.S.G.A.G.D.
    EAST18.006.003.005.0010.0012.0083.0062.0021.00
    WEST12.0010.005.003.006.0018.0062.0083.00-21.00
    ATLU1.000.000.002.002.000.0014.004.0010.00
    CHIC4.000.000.000.001.000.0013.004.009.00
    CLBS1.000.000.000.000.001.004.005.00-1.00
    DCUD0.001.000.001.000.000.001.000.001.00
    MONT1.001.001.000.000.002.007.008.00-1.00
    NERV3.001.000.000.002.002.0016.009.007.00
    NYFC1.000.000.000.001.003.006.0011.00-5.00
    NYRB1.001.001.000.000.001.002.005.00-3.00
    ORLD2.001.000.000.001.002.007.009.00-2.00
    PHIL2.000.001.000.002.001.005.005.000.00
    TORN2.001.000.002.001.000.008.002.006.00
    COLO1.000.000.000.000.004.002.008.00-6.00
    FCDS1.001.000.000.000.001.004.004.000.00
    HOUS3.000.000.000.000.004.0012.0012.000.00
    LAGA1.002.000.001.000.001.008.005.003.00
    MINN1.000.001.000.000.002.006.0014.00-8.00
    PORT0.002.000.001.000.002.008.0010.00-2.00
    RSLK2.001.001.000.001.002.004.0010.00-6.00
    SEAT1.002.001.000.001.001.009.0011.00-2.00
    SJEQ1.001.000.000.001.001.003.003.000.00
    SPKC1.000.000.000.003.000.004.002.002.00
    VANC0.001.002.001.000.000.002.004.00-2.00





    2017TOTSTOTSTOTSTOTSTOTSTOTSPTSA
    2017TGP.PTS.GPG.PPG.GAPGGLFT2016
    EAST54.0085.001.541.571.1568.00-41.00
    WEST54.0061.001.151.131.5468.00-83.00
    ATLU5.0011.002.802.200.807.000.00
    CHIC5.0013.002.602.600.806.002.00
    CLBS2.003.002.001.502.509.00-8.00
    DCUD2.004.000.502.000.009.00-9.00
    MONT5.004.001.400.801.606.00-12.00
    NERV8.0012.002.001.501.123.00-4.00
    NYFC5.004.001.200.802.206.00-16.00
    NYRB4.004.000.501.001.257.00-10.00
    ORLD6.008.001.171.331.505.000.00
    PHIL6.008.000.831.330.835.002.00
    TORN6.0014.001.332.330.335.003.00
    COLO5.003.000.400.601.606.00-11.00
    FCDS3.004.001.331.331.338.00-16.00
    HOUS7.009.001.711.291.714.002.00
    LAGA5.008.001.601.601.006.00-7.00
    MINN4.003.001.500.753.508.000.00
    PORT5.005.001.601.002.006.00-8.00
    RSLK7.008.000.571.141.434.00-8.00
    SEAT6.006.001.501.001.835.00-13.00
    SJEQ4.005.000.751.250.757.00-6.00
    SPKC4.006.001.001.500.507.00-10.00
    VANC4.004.000.501.001.007.00-9.00


    With four more games gone, the West is down by 24 points and 21 goals. Of the remaining 68 games, there are a maximum of 204 points. To tie, the West needs 114 of them, or 55.9%. Obviously, draws will occur, meaning this is the best-case scenario.

    Addtionally, the West will have to outscore the East by 0.31 more goals/game in the remaining 68 matches.
     
  4. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Week 14 results:
    CLB 3-0 SEA
    VAN 3-1 ATL
    DCU 0-0 LAG
    COR 2-1 CLB

    The West wins a week with 2 wins and a draw against just one loss. The West is now 17-17-24 overall.

    Standings are W-T-L. Teams are ranked by Points Earned.

    EAST
    TFC 4-2-0
    CHI 4-1-0
    NER 3-3-2
    ATL 3-2-1
    ORL 2-2-2
    PHI 2-2-2
    CLB 2-0-2
    DCU 1-2-0
    NYC 1-1-1
    MTL 1-1-3
    NYR 1-1-4

    WEST
    HOU 3-0-4
    LAG 2-3-1
    RSL 2-2-3
    VAN 2-1-2
    SKC 1-3-0
    SEA 1-3-3
    SJE 1-2-1
    POR 1-2-2
    FCD 1-1-1
    MIN 1-0-3
    COR 2-0-4

    Week 15 fixtures:
    SKC v. MTL
     
  5. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Country:
    United States
    The West stole two points this week, making things a big easier for them. Nevertheless, they need 56.3% of the remaining points to tie, and are still 21 goals down with four fewer games. They're not out, and they can get some big away points from DC, ATL, NYC, and CLB (not that these teams are bad, just that there are a few remaining games left for each), but they also have to defend lots of home games where points can be dropped. As has been pointed out, each Western home game tie is another gong in the death knell.

    2017ATLCHICLBDCUMNTNERNYCNYRORLPHITRNCOLFCDHOULAGMINPORRSLSEASJQSPKVAN
    ATL4:1
    CHI3:02:12:04:1
    CLB3:23:0
    DCU0:00:0
    MNT4:12:21:2
    NER2:05:24:00:0
    NYC2:1
    NYR1:01:30:0
    ORL2:02:12:2
    PHI2:12:01:3
    TRN2:03:20:0
    COL2:11:0
    FCD2:11:1
    HOU3:14:14:0
    LAG2:22:00:0
    MIN1:61:0
    POR1:11:1
    RSL1:32:11:00:0
    SEA0:03:33:10:1
    SJQ1:01:1
    SPK2:0
    VAN3:10:10:00:2



    2017HOMEHOMEHOMEAWAYAWAYAWAYTOTSTOTSTOTS
    2017WINS TIESLOSSWINS TIESLOSSG.S.G.A.G.D.
    EAST19.007.003.005.0010.0014.0088.0067.0021.00
    WEST14.0010.005.003.007.0019.0067.0088.00-21.00
    ATLU1.000.000.002.002.001.0015.007.008.00
    CHIC4.000.000.000.001.000.0013.004.009.00
    CLBS2.000.000.000.000.002.008.007.001.00
    DCUD0.002.000.001.000.000.001.000.001.00
    MONT1.001.001.000.000.002.007.008.00-1.00
    NERV3.001.000.000.002.002.0016.009.007.00
    NYFC1.000.000.000.001.003.006.0011.00-5.00
    NYRB1.001.001.000.000.001.002.005.00-3.00
    ORLD2.001.000.000.001.002.007.009.00-2.00
    PHIL2.000.001.000.002.001.005.005.000.00
    TORN2.001.000.002.001.000.008.002.006.00
    COLO2.000.000.000.000.004.004.009.00-5.00
    FCDS1.001.000.000.000.001.004.004.000.00
    HOUS3.000.000.000.000.004.0012.0012.000.00
    LAGA1.002.000.001.001.001.008.005.003.00
    MINN1.000.001.000.000.002.006.0014.00-8.00
    PORT0.002.000.001.000.002.008.0010.00-2.00
    RSLK2.001.001.000.001.002.004.0010.00-6.00
    SEAT1.002.001.000.001.002.009.0014.00-5.00
    SJEQ1.001.000.000.001.001.003.003.000.00
    SPKC1.000.000.000.003.000.004.002.002.00
    VANC1.001.002.001.000.000.005.005.000.00



    2017TOTSTOTSTOTSTOTSTOTSTOTSPTSA
    2017TGP.PTS.GPG.PPG.GAPGGLFT2016
    EAST58.0089.001.521.531.1664.00-37.00
    WEST58.0068.001.161.171.5264.00-76.00
    ATLU6.0011.002.501.831.176.000.00
    CHIC5.0013.002.602.600.806.002.00
    CLBS4.006.002.001.501.757.00-5.00
    DCUD3.005.000.331.670.008.00-8.00
    MONT5.004.001.400.801.606.00-12.00
    NERV8.0012.002.001.501.123.00-4.00
    NYFC5.004.001.200.802.206.00-16.00
    NYRB4.004.000.501.001.257.00-10.00
    ORLD6.008.001.171.331.505.000.00
    PHIL6.008.000.831.330.835.002.00
    TORN6.0014.001.332.330.335.003.00
    COLO6.006.000.671.001.505.00-8.00
    FCDS3.004.001.331.331.338.00-16.00
    HOUS7.009.001.711.291.714.002.00
    LAGA6.009.001.331.500.835.00-6.00
    MINN4.003.001.500.753.508.000.00
    PORT5.005.001.601.002.006.00-8.00
    RSLK7.008.000.571.141.434.00-8.00
    SEAT7.006.001.290.862.004.00-13.00
    SJEQ4.005.000.751.250.757.00-6.00
    SPKC4.006.001.001.500.507.00-10.00
    VANC5.007.001.001.401.006.00-6.00
     
  6. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Week 15 results:
    SKC 1-1 MTL

    The only game this week gives each conference a tie. The West is now 17-18-24 overall.

    Standings are W-T-L. Teams are ranked by Points Earned.

    EAST
    TFC 4-2-0
    CHI 4-1-0
    NER 3-3-2
    ATL 3-2-1
    ORL 2-2-2
    PHI 2-2-2
    CLB 2-0-2
    DCU 1-2-0
    MTL 1-2-3
    NYC 1-1-1
    NYR 1-1-4

    WEST
    HOU 3-0-4
    LAG 2-3-1
    RSL 2-2-3
    VAN 2-1-2
    SKC 1-4-0
    SEA 1-3-3
    SJE 1-2-1
    POR 1-2-2
    FCD 1-1-1
    MIN 1-0-3
    COR 2-0-4

    Week 16 fixtures:
    NYC v. SEA
     
  7. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Country:
    United States
    2017ATLCHICLBDCUMNTNERNYCNYRORLPHITRNCOLFCDHOULAGMINPORRSLSEASJQSPKVAN
    ATL4:1
    CHI3:02:12:04:1
    CLB3:23:0
    DCU0:00:0
    MNT4:12:21:2
    NER2:05:24:00:0
    NYC2:1
    NYR1:01:30:0
    ORL2:02:12:2
    PHI2:12:01:3
    TRN2:03:20:0
    COL2:11:0
    FCD2:11:1
    HOU3:14:14:0
    LAG2:22:00:0
    MIN1:61:0
    POR1:11:1
    RSL1:32:11:00:0
    SEA0:03:33:10:1
    SJQ1:01:1
    SPK1:12:0
    VAN3:10:10:00:2



    2017
    HOMEHOMEHOMEAWAYAWAYAWAYTOTSTOTSTOTS
    2017WINS TIESLOSSWINS TIESLOSSG.S.G.A.G.D.
    EAST19.007.003.005.0011.0014.0089.0068.0021.00
    WEST14.0011.005.003.007.0019.0068.0089.00-21.00
    ATLU1.000.000.002.002.001.0015.007.008.00
    CHIC4.000.000.000.001.000.0013.004.009.00
    CLBS2.000.000.000.000.002.008.007.001.00
    DCUD0.002.000.001.000.000.001.000.001.00
    MONT1.001.001.000.001.002.008.009.00-1.00
    NERV3.001.000.000.002.002.0016.009.007.00
    NYFC1.000.000.000.001.003.006.0011.00-5.00
    NYRB1.001.001.000.000.001.002.005.00-3.00
    ORLD2.001.000.000.001.002.007.009.00-2.00
    PHIL2.000.001.000.002.001.005.005.000.00
    TORN2.001.000.002.001.000.008.002.006.00
    COLO2.000.000.000.000.004.004.009.00-5.00
    FCDS1.001.000.000.000.001.004.004.000.00
    HOUS3.000.000.000.000.004.0012.0012.000.00
    LAGA1.002.000.001.001.001.008.005.003.00
    MINN1.000.001.000.000.002.006.0014.00-8.00
    PORT0.002.000.001.000.002.008.0010.00-2.00
    RSLK2.001.001.000.001.002.004.0010.00-6.00
    SEAT1.002.001.000.001.002.009.0014.00-5.00
    SJEQ1.001.000.000.001.001.003.003.000.00
    SPKC1.001.000.000.003.000.005.003.002.00
    VANC1.001.002.001.000.000.005.005.000.00



    2017
    TOTSTOTSTOTSTOTSTOTSTOTSPTSA
    2017TGP.PTS.GPG.PPG.GAPGGLFT2016
    EAST59.0090.001.511.531.1563.00-36.00
    WEST59.0069.001.151.171.5163.00-75.00
    ATLU6.0011.002.501.831.176.000.00
    CHIC5.0013.002.602.600.806.002.00
    CLBS4.006.002.001.501.757.00-5.00
    DCUD3.005.000.331.670.008.00-8.00
    MONT6.005.001.330.831.505.00-11.00
    NERV8.0012.002.001.501.123.00-4.00
    NYFC5.004.001.200.802.206.00-16.00
    NYRB4.004.000.501.001.257.00-10.00
    ORLD6.008.001.171.331.505.000.00
    PHIL6.008.000.831.330.835.002.00
    TORN6.0014.001.332.330.335.003.00
    COLO6.006.000.671.001.505.00-8.00
    FCDS3.004.001.331.331.338.00-16.00
    HOUS7.009.001.711.291.714.002.00
    LAGA6.009.001.331.500.835.00-6.00
    MINN4.003.001.500.753.508.000.00
    PORT5.005.001.601.002.006.00-8.00
    RSLK7.008.000.571.141.434.00-8.00
    SEAT7.006.001.290.862.004.00-13.00
    SJEQ4.005.000.751.250.757.00-6.00
    SPKC5.007.001.001.400.606.00-9.00
    VANC5.007.001.001.401.006.00-6.00


    The tie means that the West needs to start winning. Sorry for the delay.
     
  8. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Week 16 results:
    NYC 2-1 SEA

    The East wins the week. The West is now 17-18-25 overall.

    Standings are W-T-L. Teams are ranked by Points Earned.

    EAST
    TFC 4-2-0
    CHI 4-1-0
    NER 3-3-2
    ATL 3-2-1
    ORL 2-2-2
    PHI 2-2-2
    NYC 2-1-1
    CLB 2-0-2
    DCU 1-2-0
    MTL 1-2-3
    NYR 1-1-4

    WEST
    HOU 3-0-4
    LAG 2-3-1
    RSL 2-2-3
    VAN 2-1-2
    COR 2-0-4
    SKC 1-4-0
    SEA 1-3-4
    SJE 1-2-1
    POR 1-2-2
    FCD 1-1-1
    MIN 1-0-3

    Week 17 fixtures:
    SEA v. ORL
    ATL v. COR
     
  9. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Country:
    United States
    Not gonna throw up the tables for one more game, but with a lloss the West move closer to losing the trophy.
     
  10. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Next week is only the half-way point of the interconference schedule. Things can still change.
     
  11. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Country:
    United States
    Undoubtedly, but they did inch towards losing it this week. Just not enough to make much of a difference.

    If anything, I think the second half of the season is going to be huge given how many away points can be stolen or home wins racked up.
     
  12. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Week 17 results:
    SEA 1-1 ORL
    ATL 1-0 COR

    The East wins another week. The West is now 17-19-26 overall. We have just went past the half-way point of the interconference schedule. Only 60 games left.

    Standings are W-T-L. Teams are ranked by Points Earned.

    EAST
    TFC 4-2-0
    ATL 4-2-1
    CHI 4-1-0
    NER 3-3-2
    ORL 2-3-2
    PHI 2-2-2
    NYC 2-1-1
    CLB 2-0-2
    DCU 1-2-0
    MTL 1-2-3
    NYR 1-1-4

    WEST
    HOU 3-0-4
    LAG 2-3-1
    RSL 2-2-3
    VAN 2-1-2
    SKC 1-4-0
    SEA 1-4-4
    COR 2-0-5
    SJE 1-2-1
    POR 1-2-2
    FCD 1-1-1
    MIN 1-0-3

    Week 18 fixtures:
    NYC v. MIN
    RSL v. ORL
    FCD v. TFC
    CHI v. VAN
     
  13. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Week 18 results:
    NYC 3-1 MIN
    RSL 0-1 ORL
    FCD 3-1 TFC
    CHI 4-0 VAN

    The East wins again with 3 wins and only 1 loss. The West is now 18-19-29 overall.

    Standings are W-T-L. Teams are ranked by Points Earned.

    EAST
    CHI 5-1-0
    TFC 4-2-1
    ATL 4-2-1
    NER 3-3-2
    ORL 3-3-2
    NYC 3-1-1
    PHI 2-2-2
    CLB 2-0-2
    DCU 1-2-0
    MTL 1-2-3
    NYR 1-1-4

    WEST
    HOU 3-0-4
    LAG 2-3-1
    RSL 2-2-4
    VAN 2-1-3
    FCD 2-1-1
    SKC 1-4-0
    SEA 1-4-4
    COR 2-0-5
    SJE 1-2-1
    POR 1-2-2
    MIN 1-0-4

    Week 19 fixtures:
    ATL v. SJE
    MIN v. CLB
    FCD v. DCU
    HOU v. MTL
    VAN v. NYC
    POR v. CHI
    SKC v. PHI
     
  14. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Country:
    United States
    2017ATLCHICLBDCUMNTNERNYCNYRORLPHITRNCOLFCDHOULAGMINPORRSLSEASJQSPKVAN
    ATL1:04:1
    CHI3:02:12:04:14:0
    CLB3:23:0
    DCU0:00:0
    MNT4:12:21:2
    NER2:05:24:00:0
    NYC3:12:12:1
    NYR1:01:30:0
    ORL2:02:12:2
    PHI2:12:01:3
    TRN2:03:20:0
    COL2:11:0
    FCD2:11:13:1
    HOU3:14:14:0
    LAG2:22:00:0
    MIN1:61:0
    POR1:11:1
    RSL1:32:10:11:00:0
    SEA0:03:33:11:10:1
    SJQ1:01:1
    SPK1:12:0
    VAN3:10:10:00:2


    Six more games since I decided to defend my dissertation (I passed!). In those six, the East has gone 4-1-1. With 56 games left, there remain a total of 118 points left. The East has 106 points, the West 73. To win, the West needs 76 of those 118 points, or 64.4%. And they have to net 29 extra goals to accomplish this task. And a bunch of those games are going to be away games, and a handful of those home games will be ties or losses.


    2017HOMEHOMEHOMEAWAYAWAYAWAYTOTSTOTSTOTS
    2017WINS TIESLOSSWINS TIESLOSSG.S.G.A.G.D.
    EAST23.007.003.006.0012.0015.00102.0074.0028.00
    WEST15.0012.006.003.007.0023.0074.00102.00-28.00

    ATLU2.000.000.002.002.001.0016.007.009.00
    CHIC5.000.000.000.001.000.0017.004.0013.00
    CLBS2.000.000.000.000.002.008.007.001.00
    DCUD0.002.000.001.000.000.001.000.001.00
    MONT1.001.001.000.001.002.008.009.00-1.00
    NERV3.001.000.000.002.002.0016.009.007.00
    NYFC3.000.000.000.001.003.0011.0013.00-2.00
    NYRB1.001.001.000.000.001.002.005.00-3.00
    ORLD2.001.000.001.002.002.009.0010.00-1.00
    PHIL2.000.001.000.002.001.005.005.000.00
    TORN2.001.000.002.001.001.009.005.004.00

    COLO2.000.000.000.000.005.004.0010.00-6.00
    FCDS2.001.000.000.000.001.007.005.002.00
    HOUS3.000.000.000.000.004.0012.0012.000.00
    LAGA1.002.000.001.001.001.008.005.003.00
    MINN1.000.001.000.000.003.007.0017.00-10.00
    PORT0.002.000.001.000.002.008.0010.00-2.00
    RSLK2.001.002.000.001.002.004.0011.00-7.00
    SEAT1.003.001.000.001.003.0011.0017.00-6.00
    SJEQ1.001.000.000.001.001.003.003.000.00
    SPKC1.001.000.000.003.000.005.003.002.00
    VANC1.001.002.001.000.001.005.009.00-4.00


    2017TOTSTOTSTOTSTOTSTOTSTOTSPTSA
    2017TGP.PTS.GPG.PPG.GAPGGLFT2016
    EAST66.00106.001.551.611.1256.00-20.00
    WEST66.0073.001.121.111.5556.00-71.00

    ATLU7.0014.002.292.001.005.000.00
    CHIC6.0016.002.832.670.675.005.00
    CLBS4.006.002.001.501.757.00-5.00
    DCUD3.005.000.331.670.008.00-8.00
    MONT6.005.001.330.831.505.00-11.00
    NERV8.0012.002.001.501.123.00-4.00
    NYFC7.0010.001.571.431.864.00-10.00
    NYRB4.004.000.501.001.257.00-10.00
    ORLD8.0012.001.121.501.253.004.00
    PHIL6.008.000.831.330.835.002.00
    TORN7.0014.001.292.000.714.003.00

    COLO7.006.000.570.861.434.00-8.00
    FCDS4.007.001.751.751.257.00-13.00
    HOUS7.009.001.711.291.714.002.00
    LAGA6.009.001.331.500.835.00-6.00
    MINN5.003.001.400.603.407.000.00
    PORT5.005.001.601.002.006.00-8.00
    RSLK8.008.000.501.001.373.00-8.00
    SEAT9.007.001.220.781.892.00-12.00
    SJEQ4.005.000.751.250.757.00-6.00
    SPKC5.007.001.001.400.606.00-9.00
    VANC6.007.000.831.171.505.00-6.00
     
  15. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

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    Mar 30, 2004
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    Manchester United FC
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    Don't you mean 56*3 = 168 points left?
     
  16. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    Birmingham City FC
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    Yup. Dammit. So that would mean ((168/2) + 17) /168 = 60.1%
     
  17. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
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    When is the last season that the East won?
     
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  18. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    @superdave
     
  19. crazypete13

    crazypete13 Moderator
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    May 7, 2007
    A walk from BMO
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    From up thread:

     
  20. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    I didn't know you lurked here, @crazypete13 ! Start posting more, would love your input.
     
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  21. crazypete13

    crazypete13 Moderator
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    May 7, 2007
    A walk from BMO
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    I've followed many versions of this thread. If nothing else it shows the relative strength of the SS winner. I.e. an SS winner from the EC v WC conference winner is better than an SS winner from the losing EC v WC conference.

    I've also learned to live with away losses thanks to this data.
     
  22. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Country:
    United States
    The way I've set up my spreadsheet this year is going to let me test a question I've had for a long time: does the distance of the away match change the number of goals scored by the home team? I imagine that as you get further away from "home," your expected goals decrease substantially, and the home team increases, but by what quantity.
     
  23. crazypete13

    crazypete13 Moderator
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    May 7, 2007
    A walk from BMO
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    Cool, I suspect altitude differences would yield similar results - maybe not enough data points tho.
     
  24. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    Florida
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    Birmingham City FC
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    United States
    I want to have enough data over several years to account for crowd size, referee card bias, altitude, weather, distance, etc...all the little things that supposedly give an edge.
     
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  25. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

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    you sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.
     

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