MLS coaches (current and potential) and coaching thread

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I can't believe this guy has a job coaching in MLS

Poll closed Sep 30, 2018.
  1. Veljko Paunović

    12.0%
  2. Gregg Berhalter

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Ben Olsen

    23.1%
  4. Mauro Biello

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Jay Heaps

    13.7%
  6. Patrick Vieira

    2.6%
  7. Jesse Marsch

    0.9%
  8. Jason Kreis

    4.3%
  9. Jim Curtin

    15.4%
  10. Greg Vanney

    0.9%
  11. Óscar Pareja

    1.7%
  12. Wilmer Cabrera

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. Sigi Schmid

    5.1%
  14. Adrian Heath

    10.3%
  15. Caleb Porter

    0.9%
  16. Mike Petke

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  17. Chris Leitch

    2.6%
  18. Brian Schmetzer

    0.9%
  19. Peter Vermes

    1.7%
  20. Carl Robinson

    4.3%
  1. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If the Sounders were actually winning then I would be willing to overlook the dreadful soccer.
     
  2. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Excuse me, kind sir, but the Sounders are 2W-3D-1L in the last 6 games. Keep that up and we're in the playoffs!!!11!!111!!!!
     
  3. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I was at the World Cup in 2006 (and 1994, 2002, and 2010). I don't think it is any coincidence that Italy missed 2018 and people are calling it "the best World Cup ever".

    EDIT: One of the most satisfying moments of my career on the sidelines was having my last day in South Africa be Slovakia's 3-2 win over Italy - a loss that condemned Italy to 4th place in their group (below New Zealand), and a game in which all of the worst of Italian soccer was on display.
     
  4. Justin O

    Justin O Member+

    Seattle Sounders
    United States
    Nov 30, 1998
    on the run from the covid
    Club:
    Seattle
    It was pretty satisfying in the upper deck with an irate Italian-American behind me losing his mind at the prospect of finishing behind New Zealand.

    That said, Italy was fun to watch at Euro 2012, if I recall correctly.

    And it should be noted that despite its reputation, Serie A is not particularly low scoring.
     
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  5. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I prefer not having to run the table the last 3 months of every season. Oh and the God awful football, did I mention that?
     
  6. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can't believe that Veljko Paunovic still has a job.
     
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  7. Tactical Hipster

    Dec 23, 2014
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Legit question, I just moved to Chicago so I am still getting a feel for the Fire, how much do people blame Pauno as opposed to Nelson Rodriguez?

    I mean does Chicago have the talent to be much better than where they are in the table right now? I just remember liking what I saw from the Fire from last season and this season does not seem to be the same team
     
  8. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At this point I'd say I'm amazed Anthony Hudson still has a job, but its the Rapids so I'm not.
     
  9. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm shocked Stahre is still the Quakes coach, though their ownership likely doesn't want to have to pay him to go away........

    Philly should have Stewart's successor hired in the next week or two from reports. It'll be interesting to see how that person views Jim Curtin. I don't believe Curtin is the issue in Philly, everyone knows it's the lack of funding for signing players (Striker in particular).
     
  10. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    Stahre should have been finished long before now but our GM is just as moronic if not more so.
     
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  11. derek750

    derek750 Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, this is definitely not a universal position among Union fans. Curtin has produced below average results pretty much since he was hired.

    However, I would certainly agree that, given the ownership issues in Philadelphia, any Curtin replacement is likely to be cheap (and thus far from a sure thing to improve on Jim's record).
     
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  12. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree. His record does need to be put in context. It's below average when strictly compared to other teams, though not the capability of those teams and the players on them. The Union have finished right where fans have expected them to each season, with the exception of 2012. Looking at the rosters the Union have had in Curtin's tenure, hardly anyone has expected them to make the playoffs or compete.

    It should be pointed out that looking at the rosters from the Union in the recent past.............they are littered with players who are either no longer in MLS, playing in USL, or out of the game. Keep in mind....the players I'm referring to were starters for the Union!!! Until the player acquisitions change (i.e. scouting is improved/more money is funneled in) it's not going to matter who the manager/head coach is down on Seaport Drive...............they're not going to get results that are significantly better than what Curtin has and is producing.
     
  13. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ultimately it's our cheapass owner. If I had to choose between Pauno and NRod, I'd say 50/50. NRod for starting the season short handed, even after knowing we needed help at keeper, defender, attacking midfielder and we still don't have them. Pauno for playing a different lineup/formation every game, not playing his best players available. Him throwing players under the bus, considering the person who got it wrong was himself. He's not a very good coach, if we had an owner that cared about his team.

    1.He wouldn't of been hired in the first place.
    2.He would have been FIRED along time ago.
     
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  14. Tactical Hipster

    Dec 23, 2014
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fair. That is one thing I really don't like, when coaches throw players under the bus. I get that it's supposed to fire up players sometimes, but it feels like coaches are more deflecting blame from themselves.
     
  15. Sachsen

    Sachsen Member+

    Aug 8, 2003
    Broken Arrow, Okla.
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hate to say it, but if you just moved from ATL to CHI, you seriously downgraded in the MLS department. Like, ownership wise, quite possibly from first to worst.
     
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  16. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Sunny San Diego
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chicago will never be worse then Columbus when it comes to owners.
     
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  17. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    It depends, do you trust a "venture capitalist" or "hedge fund manager" to be the owner of your team? If, Columbus had Bridgeview's stadium deal instead of the Fire, we might have seen the Austin Fire by now.
     
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  18. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's so hard watching the Brian Schmetzer led Seattle Sounders.
     
  19. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They won..........that's all that matters

    Sheesh....San Jose won...on the road?!?!?!?!?!
     
  20. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #895 Yoshou, Aug 4, 2018
    Last edited: Aug 4, 2018
    Can you keep doing this whenever the Sounders are losing? :)

    That being said, they had better not start off next season like they have the last three.. It’s hard on my stomach lining.
     
  21. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Right. I was hoping I would end up laughing at that post.
     
  22. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Yeah, two seasons and two MLS Cup Finals.

    Absolutely brutal.
     
  23. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If it was only that simple. Both finals they played like shit and looked clueless in attack. That cluelessness has crept into league play.
     
  24. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What having ZERO shots on goal in MLS CUP 2016 isn't exciting soccer.:) 2017 wasn't much better, but at least they gone 2 shots on goal.;)
     
  25. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe there should be a MLS General Managers (current and potential) Front Office thread...
     
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