MLS coaches (current and potential) and coaching thread

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I can't believe this guy has a job coaching in MLS

Poll closed Sep 30, 2018.
  1. Veljko Paunović

    12.0%
  2. Gregg Berhalter

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Ben Olsen

    23.1%
  4. Mauro Biello

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Jay Heaps

    13.7%
  6. Patrick Vieira

    2.6%
  7. Jesse Marsch

    0.9%
  8. Jason Kreis

    4.3%
  9. Jim Curtin

    15.4%
  10. Greg Vanney

    0.9%
  11. Óscar Pareja

    1.7%
  12. Wilmer Cabrera

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. Sigi Schmid

    5.1%
  14. Adrian Heath

    10.3%
  15. Caleb Porter

    0.9%
  16. Mike Petke

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  17. Chris Leitch

    2.6%
  18. Brian Schmetzer

    0.9%
  19. Peter Vermes

    1.7%
  20. Carl Robinson

    4.3%
  1. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    As a Red Bulls fan, I'll tell you that I was thrilled that New England hired Friedel. I expect a lot of flailing and failing in the next couple of years.
     
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  2. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey now! The Union have signed some decent players over the years.......Vincent Nogueira, Tranquillo Barnetta, & Bedoya. They just never seem to put all of the pieces together consistently to be in sixth place :p
     
  3. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
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  4. OleGunnar20

    OleGunnar20 Member+

    Dec 7, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    now there's the way to catch liga mx by 2022.....sabotage.
     
  5. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well if any American coach has earned an interview in Liga MX, it's clearly Curt Onalfo! :thumbsup:

    "We could see the first-ever American to coach in Mexico."

    Also the last-ever!
     
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  6. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Sunny San Diego
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm just surprised to see an American coach actually leave the safety of the nest. Most seem to just be content taking an assistant job somewhere or go to the lower leagues for a few years. Good coach or not, I commend him for trying to break the mold.
     
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  7. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I theoretically understand what you're saying, but Onalfo played in Mexico, met and married his wife there, and still owns a home there. It's not a huge leap for him, personally.
     
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  8. jayd8888

    jayd8888 Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Denver CO
    I never knew any of this, thanks.
     
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  9. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

    Aug 12, 2012
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Gods be with our Mexican brothers.
     
  12. scoachd1

    scoachd1 Member+

    Jun 2, 2004
    Southern California
    That was just after this article came out. But I'd agree, there are more than a couple of his ilk in the league and you almost invariably don't find their teams drawing boatloads of fans.
     
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  13. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That article is nearly 4 years old, and the backlash from it was what a lot of people believe was behind the push to get Jermaine Jones. Of course, he single-handedly grabbed the team by the scruff of the neck and brought us to within a goal of an MLS title,

    Some of us thought that Ebeneezer Kraft had seen the light, looking at the jersey sales and newly created buzz around the team, but the real telling point was whether they would sign another top player in the off-season to make that final missing piece of the puzzle,

    Instead, Mike Burns admitted that he was "caught off guard" when a starting defender on a low contract with an EU passport, who was now out of contract, decided to triple his salary by signing with a Scandinavian club.

    We all know how it went from there. Funny thing is, even if that article is almost 4 years old, there is a lot of stuff there that still applies today.
     
  14. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Smart move by Earnie, only in Philly can he can continue signing guys like Bedoya as DPs and trading for Charlie Davies...
     
  17. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Heaps would have been better off if he had taken a job like Birmingham or Sacramento of anywhere else before landing an MLS coaching gig. Look at Savarese, who is infinitely better prepared as a coach than Heaps was.

    And while I have been a critic of Heaps and believed he was over his head with the Revs job, he's a good guy and I hope he does well in Birmingham. Many of us in Rev-land thought he'd be better as a GM than a coach.
     
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  18. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What does the 2018 MLS Coaching Hot Seat look like?

    My "most likely to be the first one fired" candidates:

    5. DCU - Ben Olsen: He'll make it at least until they open Audi Field in the summer, but only because DC is so cheap.
    4. PHI- Jim Curtin: He'd be gone already if Philly wasn't so cheap.
    3. LAG- Sigi Schmid: He should have a short leash given the arrival of LAFC and how badly he did in 2016 and 2017.
    2. MIN - Adrian Heath: The team hasn't done much to improve, and if they don't win Heath will publicly blast the players as he always does.
    1. NER - Brad Friedel: Does this guy have any idea what he's doing?

    Teams with higher ambitions or antsy owners could give an unexpected quick hook to Jason Kreis, Giovanni Savarese, Remi Garde, or even Bob Bradley, if they were to stumble...
     
  20. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Anyone that puts Brad Friedel on the hot seat has no clue as to what is going on in New England. Brad starts with at least a three year free pass. At least.
     
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  21. EvilTree

    EvilTree Member+

    Canadian S.C
    Canada
    Nov 20, 2007
    Frozen Swampland, Soviet Canuckistan
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    5. Curtin: One can only take so much mediocrity for so long.
    4. Schmid: LAG needs a quick start and at least a playoff making season in order to not be irrelevant in LA market, considering LAFC is winning the PR battle.
    3. Olsen: His DCU legend status and DCU FO incompetence can only shield him for so long, with a new stadium opening.
    2. Heath: He sucks. And can the Loons can afford another year of suck?
    1. Kreis: He's gotten his chances at Orlando, and if he can't pull a playoffs clinching season, he's done.
     
  22. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Here's the thing: Friedel is a first year coach. He'll get at least to the end of year 2. Curtin is definitely on the hot seat considering they play 5 of their first 7 games at home. If/When the Union stumble out of the gate, he'll likely be gone by the end of April.

    Kreis should be at the top of the list IMO. With all of the moves they've made this off season it's playoffs or bust for Orlando.

    Olsen will get until the end of the season. DC has made a lot of nice moves the past 6 months bringing young talent. Young talent takes time to mature and gel. Plus DC is playing a TON of road games until Audi Field opens in July. He'll get until the end of this season.

    Heath will get this season as well. They're not spending a ton of money in Minny. Also, that team improved a lot in the second half the season.

    Garde I could see. Saputo has a short leash and expects results.

    For me Curtin and Kreis have the hot seats, all other coaches are sitting easy at this juncture.
     
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  23. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Other than Friedel, this is a pretty good list. The Revs would have to be terrible for that management team to fire a first year coach. Like clearly the worst in the league terrible. He probably doesn't know what he's doing, but he'll have 2-3 years to prove it.

    Gotta say Kreis is on the list. Not sure where, but he's top five.
     
  24. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #399 xbhaskarx, Feb 20, 2018
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2018
    Time to resurrect this evergreen tweet:




    Manny Lagos says Minnesota roster building process includes one eye on 2019


    Manny Lagos continued to preach patience, a virtue that may have to serve those fans even beyond this season.

    “We’re growing into the cathedral of soccer of Allianz Field in 2019,” Lagos said, “and that starts with us being competitive on the field this year.

    “We have to be in a roster-building mode, not in a position where we need perfection and winning right now."

    Lagos insists this year's roster is a deeper one than began Minnesota's inaugural MLS campaign, even if their other offseason acquisitions to date include Mears, their SuperDraft picks, two players acquired by trade – Harrison Heath and Matt Lampson – and a pair of relatively unknown Cameroonians, Franz Pangop and Bertrand Owundi Eko’o. He also says a couple of deals to round out the squad are nearing completion.

    “We didn’t have depth last year and we need to get better at the bottom of our roster,” Lagos said.

    ...

    Toronto, Portland, and Orlando all struggled at first, he said, and have taken time to put together dominant squads through this process.
     
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  25. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #400 xbhaskarx, Feb 20, 2018
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2018
    "We want to follow the same path as an expansion team that was the butt of jokes for almost a decade while consistently failing to make the playoffs, and Orlando City who sucked before they wisened up and fired their crappy coach who we then hired to coach our team."
     
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