MLS 2019 Attendance Thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by firefan2001, Jan 6, 2019.

  1. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't believe there is a way to tell if it is primary or secondary on SeatGeek.
     
  2. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How would they do that? TicketMaster resells tickets as well...
     
  3. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I mean Ticketmaster combines them now too.
     
  4. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    I personally think they should at least be marked as a secondhand/resale ticket in some manner.
     
  5. mfw13

    mfw13 Member+

    Jul 19, 2003
    Seattle
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Sounders handled the ticket sale very poorly.

    They allowed season ticket holders to buy up to six extra seats each (not sure whether this is per account or per ticket), resulting in virtually no tickets being available for the public sale.

    And then although the public sale was listed as starting at 10:00am, they allowed people to virtually queue up beforehand (without telling anybody that this was possible).

    I got in the queue at 9:58, and tickets were long since gone by the time I got to the front at 10:42.
     
  6. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While I agree that letting people queue up early without letting people know beforehand was poor form, I'm not sure I agree with allowing STH to buy additional seats is that big of an issue. From what I understand, the Sounders have pretty much gotten rid of people that have STH primarily for scalping purposes. So most of the tickets should be getting used by the person that bought the tickets, or friend/family/etc that paid the STH face value for the tickets. There are obviously going to be STH that bought additional tickets specifically for scalping purposes, but, so far, it appears to be relatively minor.

    Another thing to consider is that it wasn't just STH that got access to the pre-sale. I got my tickets because my employer is a business partner of the Sounders and there are a lot of big companies in Seattle that are business partners of the Sounders.

    That being said, I'd be curious how many of the admittedly limited number of tickets that went on sale today were actually bought by people. I'm sure there were a lot of bots in the front of the queue that got tickets over humans.
     
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  7. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    I am aware that Ticketmaster does this too, and it also sucks.
     
  8. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    If scalping for this game is so easy, that just means the Sounders/MLS left revenue on the table. The Galaxy learned this eventually - first two home MLS Cups sold for almost regular season prices, followed by 3x inflation on the second hand market. The third time was the charm for AEG - they priced their tickets 3x more themselves, and lo and behold - much less scalping.
     
  9. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Perhaps? But there is also the chance that the teams STH are pissed off and don't renew their ST the next year...
     
  10. DCYC

    DCYC Member

    Chivas, DC United, Reno 1868
    Mar 24, 2010
    Reno, NV
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I am all for giving STH benefits but that is insane, even if it's on an account basis.
     
  11. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Here in Atlanta, both last year and this year, we were told by the team that the ticket sales are managed by MLS. The only thing the STHs are granted is early access, as far as I know, and everything else about the policy comes from the league.

    Personally I'd be happy to forego buying extra tix if I had the chance to buy my usual seat first.
     
  12. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    You're right - the Galaxy just have very few STH, which is why this worked.
     
  13. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why though? Does it matter if you’re buying first or guaranteed second hand?
     
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  14. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Yes. I want to know what the retail price was so that i know whether im getting a deal...
     
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  15. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I mean most first hand tickets are variable priced based on demand now too, so “retail” price whatever the market says it is at any given moment in most cases.
     
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  16. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    That's also terrible.
     
  17. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Welcome to capitalism...
     
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  18. DCYC

    DCYC Member

    Chivas, DC United, Reno 1868
    Mar 24, 2010
    Reno, NV
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    The fact that it's been happening does not mean it's ok.
     
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  19. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    I have no problem with capitalism and ticket prices going up as demand goes up but as a buyer I should clearly be told if I am buying a first-hand or secondhand ticket.
     
  20. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1920 FoxBoro 143, Nov 2, 2019
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2019
    Honestly, what is wrong with a company adjusting its prices based on demand? Almost every retail or retail experience (sports) has sales, promotions, discounts to groups etc.
    It's just business. I got into Six Flags this summer for free because they had a military promotion. The retail price is like $65 which I'm sure some people paid that day, but if you had a specially marked Coke can you paid $40, AAA had some discount, local college students get discounts, employees at certain local companies got discounts, season pass holders had bring-a-friend vouchers etc. So the people there spent anywhere from $0-65 to get in that day.
     
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  21. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Because it used to feel good to snag a ticket at retail price. Get a steal so to speak. No more steals though.
     
  22. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The teams with Ticketmaster systems clearly show the difference between direct and resale tickets. They are color-coded, and you can search for both together or one at a time. I don't know how it goes with other companies.
     
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  23. DCYC

    DCYC Member

    Chivas, DC United, Reno 1868
    Mar 24, 2010
    Reno, NV
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    no problem with a company adjusting its prices to supply/demand. But when a team basically sells all its ticket to the same company (ej. ticketmaster) they are in charge of the supply and demand because they have both the regular price and the resale price markets through their platform.

    do you really don't se a problem with this??

    not saying this happens, but they could easilly anounce sold out 3 minutes after regular ticket sales opened, and then control the resale market, from which they get a % comission, which means the higher the price the higher their revenue

    are you really that blind to not see the conflict of interest?
     
  24. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Finish school and learn to read then we can continue this conversation.
     
  25. DCYC

    DCYC Member

    Chivas, DC United, Reno 1868
    Mar 24, 2010
    Reno, NV
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    easy way out? I see. Yes, I finished school and I know how to read.

    If the company in charge of your regular ticket sales is in charge of your resale ticket business it is a big open door to shady things.

    Not saying those companies do it, but I can't blame consumers if they think about it. And the conflict of interest is clear.

    By the way, comparing Six Flags (open basically everyday) to a one-date-a-year event... well I don't know what to tell you.
     

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