MLS 2018 Attendance Thread

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  1. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    We can talk about wins and losses until we're blue in the face, but as brands and entertainment options, the league has just not taken the same kind of root in its major markets with entrenched Big Four loyalty and associated media infrastructure.

    I don't know what the answer is, but that is now the central issue facing the league. The product has wildly improved. You've got to find a way to sell it in Chicago, Philly, Dallas, DC, the Bay Area, New England, Houston, you just can't have so many of the major metros being albatrosses.
     
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  2. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey, that's the combination on my luggage!
     
  3. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    22,337 in Orlando (new low for Orlando stadium)
     
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  4. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Ok this season is looking pretty seriously concerning now... Even Orlando is affected
     
  5. soundermiki

    soundermiki Member+

    May 24, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Orlando started seeing diminished attendance halfway through last year. Theirs has more to do with on-field performance, or lack thereof.
     
  6. El Naranja

    El Naranja Member+

    Sep 5, 2006
    Alief
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chicago, Dallas and Houston need more engaged owners and competent FOs.

    Philly and D.C. need people with, you know, money.

    San Jose is doing fine but could always use more spending

    Boston is in a particularly unique kind of hell that won't get better easy. Or bloodless
     
  7. RfrancisR

    RfrancisR Member+

    Aug 7, 2006
    New Orleans Diaspora
    The attendance issue is very concerning. However, this is not entirely an MLS issue. Even major college football programs are finding it harder and harder to get butts in seats. It’s happening newrly everywhere. Even the NFL has seen attendance decreases in recent years.
     
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  8. zensum

    zensum Member+

    Jan 22, 2008
    The Bronx, NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    #558 zensum, Apr 8, 2018
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2018
    Everyone should check-in to Empty Seats Galore on a daily basis…there are MLB crowds this time of year that look eerily similar to the worst MLS crowds…and not just a couple of outliers...
     
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  9. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    MLS has been well positioned to be the exception to that rule. Slippage would be concerning, especially with so much else going right.

    I just wonder, what is the ticket price background here?
     
  10. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When the labor market is tight, sports attendance hurts. In a bad economy, attendance picks up.
    *my personal eye test, not backed up by any actual analysis.
     
  11. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    MLS at StubHub Center
    Carson, CA
    Attendance 25846
    Weather Clear

    Which the team is announcing as a sellout again.
     
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  12. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    StubHub center was in a new configuration today. Corner bleachers open, standing room open but grass berm bleachers not open. Thus a whole new sellout number.
     
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  13. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why were the grass berm bleachers not open?
     
  14. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    I think they decided which games to open those for before the season even started. Didn't know they'd sign Zlatan.

    My preseason panic about Galaxy attendance seems to have been erroneous, though Zlatan is just a band-aid. Still, it sends a message to the fans that the Galaxy will continue trying to sign the big players.
     
  15. Cincy Liverpool fan

    Fc Cincinnati
    Jun 16, 2015
    Cincinnati, USA
    Club:
    Cincinnati Kings
    LA has to sign big names, it's not just for soccer it's for everything. there's too much competition for entertainment dollars to not have flashy signings.
     
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  16. Traumer

    Traumer Member

    Feb 25, 2016
    Cincinnati
    Big part to me is ticket pricing. I know plenty of people who would go to sporting events, but not at current prices. Similar issue seeing movie attendances slipping over past decade.
     
  17. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Anyone know how ticket sales are doing for DC United at Annapolis?
     
  18. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  20. Stuart95

    Stuart95 Member+

    Mar 11, 2012
    NoVA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here's what the stadium looks like for a Navy football game (this was an AF v Navy game with a big crowd): IMG_0234.JPG IMG_0237.JPG
     
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  21. Traumer

    Traumer Member

    Feb 25, 2016
    Cincinnati
    Have to also look at production and marketing budgets. Justice League made $600+ million dollars and reportedly lost Warner Bros. money. That scenario would have been unthinkable in 1980.

    Plenty of success, especially for Disney right now with Marvel, Star Wars, and its stable of animated and now live action remakes. On the flip side many studios are one or two major flops away from being in major trouble.
     
  22. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Only your luggage?Not interested.

    If it's your Panamanian bank account . . . .
     
  23. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, it's the other way around for the Panamanian bank accoun...

    Oops.
     
  24. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Is that the bank account you inherited from the Nigerian prince, that sent you an email?
     
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  25. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was a gift from the Czarina of Tokyo.
     

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