MLS 2015 Season, Other Teams Thread II

Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by patfan1, Oct 1, 2015.

  1. Jon Martin

    Jon Martin Member+

    Apr 25, 2000
    SE Mass
  2. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Zzzzz...SNORT! Wha? Huh? Aahhh, I dunno, he's not exactly a "needle-mover," not really a household name. My wife thought he was some ancient ruins on a mountaintop in a remote part of Peru."
     
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  3. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]
    You know we almost signed him but it fell through like 98% of my deals do
     
  4. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The 2% that don't, flatter him...
     
  5. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    This is where the cynic in me wonders if Burns knows who Torres is.
     
  6. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope Burns and Heaps were watching the Columbus-Montreal game yesterday. That was a good example of both teams having a deep enough roster that they could actually make substitutions based on the game situation. The very idea that the Cows picked up a guy like Jack Mac for the stretch run, and yet Burns thought we were good to go for the winter transfer window, and the only guy we attempted to sign in the summer was a "project" that we lost to an NASL club....
     
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  7. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes - and the Dallas - Seattle game. Emptying the bench in the 84th minute and having (gasp) guys that can actually change the game for you. Amazing concept.

    I'm really impressed by what Pareja has done in Dallas. To get this far on that budget, rely on a great Academy and shrewd signings. Well done.
     
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  8. dncm

    dncm Member+

    Apr 22, 2003
    Boston
    http://matchcenter.mlssoccer.com/matchcenter/2015-11-08-fc-dallas-vs-seattle-sounders-fc/recap


    Armchair Analyst's Take
    There is strength in numbers. Especially when you have a coach who’s committed to using everything and everyone at his disposal.
    Dallas have been noteworthy for their youth, and with that ethos has come an extra level of depth. So when extra time, and then penalties came, they weren’t winded and they weren’t weary.
    They were just ready.
     
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  9. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kaka, Giovinco, Bradley, Gerrard, Lampard, Villa, Jozy, Dempsey, Keane, Dos Santos, Jones, Martins, Pirlo, Gonzalez, Morales

    These are the 15 highest paid MLS players this season.

    Not a single one of these players will be playing in the conference finals.
     
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  10. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. Minuteman

    Minuteman Member

    Oct 16, 2003
    Abington, MA
    #87 Minuteman, Nov 9, 2015
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    Here's hoping it all goes horribly wrong for them. Also, I wish Jason all the best in finding a new job that is a better fit.
     
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  12. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Guillermo Barros Schelotto, who had a great run in MLS and is currently the coach of Lanus in Argentina where he has done very well, will be interviewed for the Chicago Fire head coach position
     
  13. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #89 RevsLiverpool, Nov 9, 2015
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    Viera? Hahaha No experience in MLS, strongest asset is working with youth vs ego driven late career stars. Wow, and they expect him to mould together that team in a year? Moving from Citeh to MLS will be a massive culture shock in terms of the cap, limits to players you can get and other socialist rules that exist nowhere else in the broader soccer world. Great player but I will be SHOCKED if he doesn't fail miserably at NYC FC. This has Ruud Guillit at the Galaxy written all over it. I love it.
     
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  14. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He should go to Minnesota United. Just like RSL, far more patient market and owners than NYC. He would do well there if given enough time I think.
     
  15. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, Minny already has their infrastructure. They aren't really an "expansion" team, they are more like Montreal, Portland, Seattle, as opposed to Philly Toronto or Atlanta. He might not be too crazy about another expansion team, but I think he's able to pick his spot.
     
  16. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    And less than half of them belong in that stratosphere IMO.
     
  17. dncm

    dncm Member+

    Apr 22, 2003
    Boston
    #93 dncm, Nov 9, 2015
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  18. dncm

    dncm Member+

    Apr 22, 2003
    Boston
    #94 dncm, Nov 9, 2015
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    Great point, but I'm afraid it will further the Krafts to think there is no need to get players like this....as Jones possibly walks too. They will say - "we can be just as good as Dallas....remember when we had 3 great years of drafts 10 years ago?.... "

    That means it will come down to scouting - not "trialists in the winter" (yikes).....and creating a vibe of championship ambitions via coach, stadium, facilities, and their positive contract negotiations to convince players/agents that players will want to come and play here and can further their careers.

    That is a tall step for the Revs lately, it seems :(
     
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  19. a517dogg

    a517dogg Member+

    Oct 30, 2005
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Well to be honest, there isn't any real need to get players like Lampard, Pirlo, Kaka, etc... (although a Giovinco would be nice!). There is a need to get players like Fabian Castillo, Mauro Diaz, Diego Chara, Liam Ridgewell, Sasha Kljkljlkjlestan, Kei Kamara, Gaston Sauro....
     
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  20. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's like my 8-year-old daughter who sees us driving a car and is convinced that it's so easy that she can do it too. Then she got on a video game of a race course and wiped out a whole row of palm trees, several storefronts and narrowly missed a few pedestrians.... In reality, it's harder than it seems.

    Sure, Dallas and the Red Bulls (and KC and RSL a few years ago) have built very good teams without spending a lot of money, but they have to make up for it by being smarter, scouting more, turning over more rocks, finding those guys who can contribute, and not being afraid of making a mistake, just move on and sign the next guy. That strategy can be successful, but not if you have the work ethic of a Phish fan and have trouble figuring out how to tie your shoelaces.
     
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  21. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. Gerrard, Lampard, Pirlo, Kaka and Villa. That's the elite group that have won major trophies - Champions League, World Cup, Euro, etc. The rest are solid players but Giovinco is the class of that second group IMO, based on age, pedigree and potential upside. He is the real deal.
     
  22. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Listen...obviously...as I've said before...I'm not gonna comment on that."
     
  23. 6and33areGOD

    6and33areGOD Member

    Jun 19, 2011
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Yeah, I have to say that I'm rooting for this to not only fail, but to be one of those rare examples of such profound mismanagement that it takes a decade to recover. Current Brooklyn Nets, or early 2000's Knicks style where your just praying that you might be mediocre again in 5-6 years. I really hate New York sports.
     
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  24. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    YES. The DP debate can be a real distraction - there is a whole stratum of upper-cap level players that we aren't filling.
    I'm actually talking about MLS performance, not international pedigree. Of the sub-group you listed, only Kaka and Villa earned their pay IMO.
    The way to get better is to get better, not worse. Let's keep this disappointment in perspective: this is the first year that Heaps has failed to make significant progress with this team (even though there was little margin to improve on last season's ending).
     

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