Mexico's Football Related Random Thoughts Thread - Volumen Cincuenta Dos

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  1. CyberAce100

    CyberAce100 Member+

    Jul 4, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I don't understand how some people keep defending that chant like it's something embedded in our culture. Not even because of political correctness, but the chant is just dumb, corny, and childish. The thing is that now many people see screaming that every time the opposing goalie kicks the ball as part of the experience of attending a México game.
     
  2. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    At the World Cup it did.
     
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  3. Lyrical S.

    Lyrical S. Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Morelia, Michoacan
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Not the actual chant part.. The actual part that is embedded is the part when you try and restrict someone to not doing something and somehow we feel we are the king of the world and don't give a shit..

    My problem is that everywhere you see an article about this chant they lazily label it as only Homophobic, they dont even present the origin and meaning of the word. A word that in Latin means "to think" and then got assimilated to prostitution.

    But in Mexico its mains uses is to illustrate rage and protitution..

    "Me da un puto coraje la injusticias que hay en nuestro pais." is that homophobic?


    "Los vecinos trabajan en un putero por la Coahuila." is that homophobic?

    They try to assimilate it to the F word that rhymes with maggots, when in Mexico they do have a word for it "puñal.."
     
  4. Romario'sgurl

    Romario'sgurl Member+

    Wakanda FC
    Aug 26, 2000
    Wakanda
    Club:
    FC Ingolstadt 04
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Great discussion fam. Thank you for keeping this civil.
     
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  5. SGuerrilla

    SGuerrilla Member+

    Sep 8, 2014
    en la cueva
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    This. It's part of the game and contributes to the fun.

    At the Rose Bowl 2 years ago, I sat next to a group of the parents of some of the mascots the players walk out with. The kids returned like a minute after the match started, and sat next to their parents. These were white and asian parents, mind you, so they most likely don't speak spanish. When the Jamaican GK kicked off the first time, they raised their hands up and shouted p*to, along with everyone else. Overheard one of the dads comment on how it was so much fun that the entire stadium does it.

    Those dudes don't understand what it means but they understand it's something the Mexican crowd does for fun.

    Like Colima has said, the people who chant it at games and are now being told to not chant it will now be the ones chanting the loudest.
     
  6. Sanchito

    Sanchito Member+

    Jul 15, 2005
    an island in my mind
    Sure, but the context in which it's being used isn't outrage. It's mocking, and it's mocking the keeper based on a sexual preference.
     
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  7. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  8. SGuerrilla

    SGuerrilla Member+

    Sep 8, 2014
    en la cueva
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Mans either has no self awareness or is completely self aware.
     
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  9. Lyrical S.

    Lyrical S. Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Morelia, Michoacan
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    My point is that it is lazily labeled as homophobic slur when it isn’t the usual term for it in Mexico..
     
  10. Skuzzy

    Skuzzy Member+

    Feb 15, 2014
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico

    What's psg gonna do tho, bench him and ******** up their Champions league chances even more, or sell him which is totally what he doesn't want at all.
     
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  11. CyberAce100

    CyberAce100 Member+

    Jul 4, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Eduardo Herrera is such a troncazo
     
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  12. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Wow, Cruz Azul is not choking this cup game away :eek:
     
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  13. beat junky

    beat junky Member+

    Jul 4, 2007
    CA
    I don’t understand how Renato keeps getting on the field, he sucks.
     
  14. Ron Mexico

    Ron Mexico Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    So they should stop playing games in the states? Lol
     
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  15. Colima24

    Colima24 Member+

    Jul 28, 2005
    Villa de Alvarez
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    No, just kick out the people acting a fool.
     
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  16. nopalnation

    nopalnation Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    San Diego CA
    Club:
    CA Monarcas Morelia
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
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  17. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
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  18. Skuzzy

    Skuzzy Member+

    Feb 15, 2014
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  19. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Bug bites
     
  20. LGRod

    LGRod Member+

    Mexico
    Aug 14, 2010
    Listenin to Los Bookies
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    #4345 LGRod, Jul 14, 2019
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    Gignac is @Serg33 . Martin and Aguilar are @Sanchito and I giving moral support.
     
  21. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    I've literally seen it being used as a gay slur against a gay person in Mexico. Don't act as because it's not as usual as other words, it has no relation. A word that has a relation with homophobia being used by a very homophobic environment but there is no relation. Sure....
     
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  22. Lyrical S.

    Lyrical S. Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Morelia, Michoacan
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Hence my choice of wording and use of "usual" "as only"...

    Don't be lazy...
     
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  23. Lyrical S.

    Lyrical S. Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Morelia, Michoacan
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    And hence my problem with media not explaining in detail what is really going with that word.. i.e. what is the meaning and origin of the word..How the chant originated..

    Puñal, joto, maricon.. are homophobic slurs in Mexico and dont probably have other meaning..

    Puto has various meanings and uses in Mexico..

    And just a disclaimer I agree it has no place in our culture as a fan base and am aware that what context it is being used..

    I just have a problem when someone says it is strictly homophobic slur..

    I come from a place where we use it to illustrate a feeling and prostitution(describing someone that has multiple suitors or relationships, and charging for sex)

    i.e.

    Me da una puta risa..

    El/Ella anda de puto/a con otra/o y otra/o..

    Es puta, la llegan a visitar multiples personas y les cobra...

    That doesn't make me homophobic..
     
  24. Otaku

    Otaku Member+

    Dec 9, 2003
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    This. It's gotten old and frankly embarrassing. It makes our fanbase look like we are a bunch of 11 year olds.
     

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