I look at this another way, both S. American clubs should MAN it up and show up to play the away match in Mexico, if they want to overreact and wear facemasks wherever they go, than so be it. Play in a closed stadium if they have to. They are simply using the Swine flu as an excuse to get out of playing tough matches. What happened to the concept of fair play in Argentina ?
All of you have it wrong. The issue here is CONMEBOL blatantly lying to the FMF. They had previously arranged a scenario where the Mexican's team pulled out of the tourney and would be allowed back in next year without affecting the spots Mexico already has/had. That was a deal it was agreed upon, however, Leoz had to change it at the last minute, then hell broke loose. I'm all for taking the necessary precautions in regards to the "swine" flu, but I'm also down for honest and fair play; something the CONMEBOL clearly lacks.
I think this whole Swine flu fiasco has been overblown. The data strongly suggests this flu is no worse and no more contagious than any of the other garden-variety flus. The fact that mexican futbol games are resuming with full crowds is a very good sign. If this "pandemic" were truly serious, there would not be any flights to/from Mexico. I think it was just a matter of two (2) S.A. clubs trying to take advantage of the situation to make sure their teams advance in the tourney without risk of losing a 2-leg contest; methinks they would have done this with any Club team from any other country if given the chance. And CONMEBOL is letting them get away with it.
I totally agree. Has anyone heard from the meningitis outbreak in Nigeria that has killed (READ WELL - K I L L E D) 2000 people? Now that's something to keep your eye on. Nigeria meningitis death toll surpasses 2,000 Outbreak more serious than initially feared, nation’s health officials say http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30604930/ If it was two small teams, I would dismiss the assumption that Conmebol is just screwing the Mexican clubs to favore its own. If Boca was involved I would say that there's no doubt that Conmebol is favoring its own. Since the issue involves SPFC and former uruguayan great Nacional I am leaning towards this perception. Conmebol is as unfair and unbalanced as you can get.
Yes, but the details of that agreement seem very vague for an official decision. For example, where exactly were those spots going to come from, was the cup going to be expanded again to accommodate them? Were they going to be for the Qualifying Round or Group Stage? It sounds to me like the agreement was just another option CONMEBOL was considering that got shot down by the federations that stood to lose spots. "Todos cuidan su chacrita".
Eh... CONMEBOL may need Mexico for their pockets not CONMEBOL as a whole(incluiding clubs and national federations), let's get real. I don't know about that, but by what it's said in here by people that is living in United States, probably they'd spend a while talking about how they ripped mexican sides off the CONMEBOL tournaments and such, though for other issues argentine commentators are no better.
And thinking of it again a little bit, it could be another explanation regarding São Paulo and Nacional's decision, hmm...
I just cancelled my dish latino sub, (FSE) etc. It was my excuse to watch mexican teams playing in Comebol tournaments.
i still dont understand why neither the conmebol nor nacional and sao paulo accepted to play at home first to give an extra week for the problem in mexico to be completely ok. They couldve also play one game at a neutral ground. I dont think this is the end of this novela, grondona wouldnt be the nly one losic on the economic side, mfl teams are the main reason santander it's on board. we'll see how that goes
I guarantee that Conmebol is gonna renegotiate to give 3 spots to Mexico & USA. Sounds crazy? Why do you think that European teams playing "Summer tours" in the US? Because they wanna go shopping?
We've been hearing such things for over a year now, first that they were going to demand equal treatment and what now, then that they'd force modificitations in the cups. There were meetings and all but nothing changed at all. If they want they can do the same in the off-season, in fact teams already do that. Also to expand their "brand" not for the income of a single tour, it's more of a long-term thing.
Where exactly did you read that? Google is flooded with data that says you are a f-ing lier. And Yes, the lack of mexican clubs in the tournament will result in significant lower ratings, which means sponsors will drop out, and tv stations will be forced to renegotiate the contracts with conmebol or drop them all together. Lets see if conmebol would continue paying $100,000 per home game to the southy teams.
Too much talk about money, yet there has never been any actual number thrown out about anything. It's clear however that whatever money it is, CONMEBOL is keeping it all, so in the end for the clubs it may make no difference.
Numbers are not needed.. all you need to know is Mexican teams = dollars.. is that simple.. Cuz FoxSports doesn't care about Mexicans living in Mexico.. all they care about are the ones living in the US.. which outnumber all other hispanic/latinamerican groups.. by a lot ...
So many god damn conjectures! I live in California and I assure you, there is no epidemic here. We are not disease-filled mongrels who are just waiting to infect you. I've been snooping around this forum without an account for a while now, but seriously, ignorant comments such as these are a good reason to make one. Yes, you may argue that there have been cases, but as far as I know, here in Los Angeles we aren't the least bit concerned about H1N1.
Agreed. I can say that it's pretty much non-existant here, atleast in Los Angeles. I have yet to meet (or even see) a person that is infected with Swine Flu.
I'm not comparing to Mexican population (DUH!). South Americans populations has grown significantly since early 90's.
You said there was a larger South American population, and you were comparing it to the Mexican population. Anyway, lets see how much Conmebol start missing us when their sponsors go away, and broadcasters have to pay half or less of what they were paying because of lack of sponsors. I'm pretty sure it will affect the prizes paid out to south american clubs and which are not paid equally to Mexican clubs.