PBP: Match Day 9: Chelsea FC v. Manchester United

Discussion in 'Chelsea' started by Brock Hannsen, Oct 21, 2016.

  1. Yahtzee

    Yahtzee Member+

    Nov 4, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I would take Juan back.
     
  2. Ninjatend0

    Ninjatend0 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 10, 2007
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    jonny kills. still one of my favorite players in the whole game. just seems like a genuinely great guy. i'd take him back as well. he could do some real damage at the top of our formation the way it is lined up now. but not going to happen.
     
  3. Wrath

    Wrath Member+

    May 4, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I think United have had a tough run in to be honest. They have had a lot of away games and got some big games out of the way. I expect them to pick up. Jose is still figuring out the team and the fixtures have not allowed him to.

    That said, Jose has lost a lot of his sheen. He is too stubborn and keeps playing his tried and tested method. Fergie was intelligent enough where he kept changing his tactical coaches and he was just a "manager". Jose needs some fresh ideas. His defense first attitude in all big games has become really old and teams expect that now. Once the opponent scores, his teams are never able to overturn the lead as they have been set up to bunker.
     
  4. StamfordBridgeLions

    Chelsea FC
    Sep 4, 2016
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Why Statistics are such garbage:


    Possession

    Home44%

    Away56%

    Shots

    Home14

    Away16

    Shots on Target

    Home6

    Away5

    Corners

    Home5

    Away7

    Fouls

    Home7

    Away17


    These statistics seem to suggest an evenly matched game with one team winning by a slight narrow margin, but the reality was not like that at all. Chels dominated that game of football and it could easily have been more than 4-0.



    What about Hazard being taken down on the edge of the box/in the box by an outstretched back leg. That should have been a free-kick/penalty with the United lad seeing red as he was already on a yellow. Media outcry? FA going to look into that retroactively?
     
  5. Crawleybus

    Crawleybus Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Many thanks mate, Jose is starting to look very bitter and twisted, he simply can't take losing and when he does he becomes bang out of order.
     
  6. Miguel Alvarez

    May 12, 2006
    Happy Birthday!

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  7. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Mata is a great guy, but he wouldn't fit well into a Conte side. Where would he play? He's not fast enough to be a winger, he clearly doesn't defend enough (see Hazard's goal yesterday) and he's not big enough for the type of second strikers Conte typically likes. He'd be a sub for us at best - a Fabregas who plays further up the pitch.

    He needs to go to a slightly lower table side where he can run the show a la Mahrez without the defensive responsibilities. He'll look great doing that.
     
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  8. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Advanced statistics tell a very different story of the same game (i.e., shot location, expected goals, etc.) Just because extremely basic statistics don't show the story of the match doesn't mean all statistics are bad.
     
  9. Blueallthru

    Blueallthru Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    May 15, 2012
    The Interwebz
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    #109 Blueallthru, Oct 24, 2016
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2016
    Most of their shots on target were from outside the box. Places you generally want shots take from.
     
  10. Brock Hannsen

    Brock Hannsen Member+

    Feb 3, 2014
    Hartford, CT
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Favorite and most telling stat of the game:

    Chelsea scored 4 goals. United, they scored no goals.
     
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  11. Crawleybus

    Crawleybus Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    You're not the only juan.
     
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  12. scirea6

    scirea6 Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    He no longer has Claudio Marchisio to do the grunt work for him.

    Arturo Vidal and Andrea Pirlo didn't hurt, either. But Marchisio's presence, in particular, allowed Pogba to play to his strengths while compensating for his weaknesses. Pogba's never been able to consistently carry the midfield by himself for either club or country, and even where he should play in the midfield has never been clearly defined. When you're supported by two world class box-to-box midfielders, that team can afford to wait for flashes of brilliance. But when you're supported by Marouane Felliani, flashes of brilliance aren't enough.

    Also, it's often forgotten that Antonio Conte basically made Paul Pogba. He was the one who convinced him to move to Juve in the first place, and he was the manager who made Pogba into a starting player. So Conte understands his strengths and weaknesses as well as just about anybody.
     
  13. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Agreed.

    Although, as we know, 87.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
     
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  14. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite

     
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  15. ArmanSLR

    ArmanSLR Member+

    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
  16. hudson hooligan

    hudson hooligan Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Aug 6, 2008
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. Brock Hannsen

    Brock Hannsen Member+

    Feb 3, 2014
    Hartford, CT
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    The best goal was Kante's goal because Kante never scores and he weaved United's defense like a Native American basket.

    The second best goal was Hazard's goal because of the passing beforehand from Hazard, Kante and Matic and then the move to the final strike from Hazard.

    The third best goal was Pedro's opener. Great anticipation and pace to muscle onto the ball.

    The fourth best goal was Cahill's goal. It fell perfectly to him off a corner and he nailed it off Blind's arse. Though he did his best to miss it.

    Four goals past De Gea speaks volumes to how poor United's defense was and how much better our players were at exposing their weaknesses. There is Buffon, Neuer, Cech, Lloris, and De Gea as the top 5 keepers in the world.
     
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  18. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    That's why DL is a fan's favorite.
     

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