I was about to say that he should ref his game since it's his last WC game, but somehow he's only 41 and he'll probably enter 2022 as UEFAs #1.
Except when it is. It's been pretty damned inconsistent. Heck hugely simlilar fouls on Kane alone have been both called and not called
No. Billy called it a "horribly wrong" offside decision. I took offense to the "horribly wrong" part. It was pretty much even.
Nitpick: They are not instructed to keep the flag down and wait for VAR. They are instructed, as MR noted, to delay the flag until after the scoring opportunity and the raise the flag for the OS. The AR always makes an on/off decision. (I have no idea if that was an OS flag or a GK flag. [EDIT: others have clarified that it clearly was for OS])
That stupid delay-the-call instruction has evaded my ability to understand it until this thread. Thanks!
It's really amazing how big the bait and switch has been on VAR. The domestic leagues and even the trials at the international level were all about catching and punishing more violent and illegal play. It's now become the exact opposite at the World Cup. After a rash of a few penalties that got missed on the first two matchdays and a couple dubious handballs on matchday three, it seems that VARs are just there in case there is an obvious error of commission. Has there been a single VAR intervention in the knockout stage that resulted in a changed decision? We've had no VC red cards. No SFP red cards. And not a single penalty for an aerial challenge all tournament. It's like someone at FIFA realized that if VAR actually did what it was intended to do, it would change the face of the game too much and result in far too much referee involvement. So they just decided to take "clearly wrong" to an impossibly high internal standard.
The angle is just a bit off so it's tough to tell what the AR saw, but it's definitely a close call anyway. Saying that it's "horribly" wrong is a bit much there.
yah tbh, whichever way the AR would have ruled I wouldn't have blamed him at the top levels, they get even the close ones right much more often than they don't, which amazes me
Right, but calls like that are tough to make for referees, which is why they are inconsistently called and why--partially--VARs were invented. VARs were supposed to get rid of the inconsistency so the holds missed on the field were caught if they were clear and obvious. Instead, they just opt to never call them, which exacerbates the inconsistency.
It’s a World Cup semi. If we didn’t have VAR and that call cost England a goal, the soccer world would be enraged. At this level, that is a horrible call.
True. And with the clear and obvious standard, no judgement/soft PK call is going to get sent for OFR, I'd imagine. If it's not a stone cold PK or a clear dive, PK calls aren't going to involve VAR, basically. Anything in between is up to the CR to get right in the moment.
Well, that's why they had trials before implementing it in the World Cup. The whole idea of VAR has always been to correct clear match critical errors, and it has done enough of that to make it worth while. Your point seems to be that if VAR can't fix everything then it shouldn't fix anything...and obviously, I don't agree.
Yeah, that's a foul. My only guess is Cakir's angle made him see a fair shoulder challenge and not unfair leg contact.
I think he may have thought a foul was called and it was his free kick (or was pretending to) - Rebic came in late.
I don’t think that’s what he’s saying. If you come out with a system to make things “better” but then decide to not actually use the system because you don’t like what “better” actually means, something is wrong.
Correct me if I'm wrong but screaming your dissent at the ref at being given a yellow card is a bit, ahem, unwise?