Match #22 - Costa Rica vs Mexico (pbp/discussion) [R]

No, they're like a state, so Hawaii would be a better comparison.

 

They already applied for statehood?
Damn I need to keep up with the news.

 

Wait.

So California can field a team?

X that. Im thinking its something along the lines of Puerto Rico fielding a team, they are allowed to aren't they?

 

Mexico looked better last night. when Blanco and Bofo came in, the team looked stronger and more dangerous. The fact is that Mexico moves on like it or not
There were a lot of unhappy people at Reliant. I saw a lot of fights around me.

 

Puerto Rico is an American territory that is not treated as a "state". If they became the 51st state of the USA then the comparison would be correct.

Guadeloupe is a French department, the same as other departments within France. Essentially like one of the 50 american states. They have representation in the French government and their inhabitants are French citizens. So it'd be like Hawaii, Alaska, Texas, California or Florida etc. having a team.

 

Why did Concacaf grant Guadaloupe membership then? Isn't it a little obsurd that citizens of Guadaloupe are allowed to play for 2 national teams. Either accept you're part of France or tell them you don't want to be a soccer colony anymore...

(And for the record, if not for it's soccer colonies, esp Guadaloupe, France wouldn't be anywhere near the team they have been for the last decade or two.)

 

I think Hugo keeps starting the wrong players. I think the lineup he finished with last night (Plus working Neri in somewhere) make Mexico a completely different team. A better team.

 

I agree., Borgetti and El Venado do not convince me. both times I've seen them here in Houston.
I always thought that Blanco looked to get fouled all the time, but when he was subbed in last night you could see the change on Costa Rica's game plane. and I saw right infront of me how they would foul Blanco and pull on his jersey. I guess you can see more things when you see the game at the stadium.

 

This had to have been one of the most poorly played matches in the tourney so far...regardless of what some of the CR and U.S fans would have you belive, Mexico did have possesion of the ball and Mexico did have more attempts and shots on gol, therefore Mexico was the agressor and dominated the match...however, we couldnt finish, which is the most important part of playing football. The ref was horrible, thiers no denying that, but that was due in part to medford's (or mac from predator as i refer to him) "destroy all mexicans" game plan. Mexico is playing like utter crap right now, we need to improve no doubt, but its really pathetic that playing the way we are right now...we can still get to the final !! What a joke of a tournament !! While the U.s is playing "perfect" according to fsc and thier cronies, they're expected to reach the final...Mexico is playing like crap and we have a better chance of reaching it too. And if Canada beats the U.s...id say we have a 90% chance of lifting the trophy....

 

True, only difference is that Guadeloupe has a completely distinct culture compared to France. Different music, different food, different people, different language ( the most common language spoken there is Creole) etc

 

Check this article out, it's from the official Gold Cup website:
http://www.terra.com/deportes/articulo/html/fox407764.htm

"Jared Borgetti scored in the 94th minute to lead Mexico to a 1-0 win over Costa Rica in double overtime in a quarterfinal match of the CONCACAF Gold Cup Sunday at a sold out Reliant Stadium."

Double overtime? 94th minute? Who writes this crap?

A better comparison would probably be England/Scotland/Wales/Ireland. They are the same country but are represented in FIFA separately. American is definitely more of a centralized federal state. People here don't differentiate themselves as much from state to state. Yeah, yeah, I know that it does occur, but not at the level that it does in other nations. We are more "united" here. People refer to themselves as American first, and Californian/Virginian/etc second. Can you see a Scottsman referring to himself as a British citizen first? Now, as for former French players representing them, I don't know what's up with that. Once you choose which team you're representing you should have to stick with it.

 

Except Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland all have their own parliaments with limited self-rule, so this is a distinct difference in your comparison.

 

I'll let you know after the game on Thursday

 

I dont know if your the only one... but i don't see it. Come on... the ref wasn't favoring Mexico, he was just to dumb to realize Aleman or w/e had a yellow card already, im sure if he knew that he wouldn't show him the second =P, Dont tell me CR was better when they had 11 players couse the didnt show very much... During that time Mex had the game. The second was one of the stupidest red cards i'v seen but well it happens, and the tirth... you cant complain about that one.

Now i was speaking with a friend from CR, and we decided to watch the reply, he said that moust of the faults weren't as they were just using the body (charges?? sorry i dont know how to say it in english, but there was a little difference between CR charges and Mexico Charges... CR came with arms up, not just body, watch the replay... and even when they saw the ref was penalizing those they kept doing it...

Im sorry to tell you guys this but i know a lot of you hat8 mex fan's couse of our ego, telling we are the best in Concacaf (not that i belive it) and always making escuses when we lose, well now.... you aren't showing any difference between those kind of Mexi fans, and a lot of you right now... =P
Just my opinion.

OOO and before i got a reply with this: Yes even if Mex was better when it was 11 vs 11, they might lost, since they could't score... still didn't happen, we'll see what happends with out Hugo and prob with out Medf, in the wcq.

Cheers.

 

CR cant hang, just like the last two matches. Isnt it obvious? quite believing that conspirasy BS.

 

I have watched most of the Gold Cup games, I am very disapointed with the level of play Mexico has been showing. I thought the game against Costa Rica was going to be a walk in the park, and it turned out that Mexico won it with some luck. I hope they improve or else they are going home early in Copa America.

 

No se si sean honestos (o deshonestos), mae pero si eran malos.

Metro

 

I havent even seen the games yet. I dont doubt that the refs were crap. But you win some you lose some. The way I hear it CR even hit the post with a man down or something more. That is futbol. Sometimes the refs are crap.

I know for a fact that the refs suck, but I think its mostly for idiocy. Like the one cuban linesman who couldnt get an offsides call right to save his life.

But as far as refs riggin a Mex US final, im not sure about that. Sure it would be cool, Im sure some refs would think it would be cool. But I have to trust that they are professionals, even if they are incompetent professionals.

 

The refs have been piss poor across the board. For the Ticos, you guys weren't in the game even when it was 11 v 11 so why cry foul? If you want to be pissed off at anyone be pissed off at your player that blew the wide open header in overtime.

And the Panamanians really have no dog in this fight either b/c there were missed calls on both sides. Panama should have received TWO red cards (Donovan PK and Baloy handball) before the Gooch incident.

The ref in the US/Guat game was horrible and most of the calls went against the US....where's the conspiracy there?

Spilled milk.

 

I'd rather have a Mexican or American ref for a Mexico v. USA match than these terrible Central American/Caribbean refs we've seen lately. And before I get jumped on, I'm not saying bad things about Central Americans or Caribbeans in general, just these damn officials. Hell, if we can find a Mexican-American ref, you know, dual citizen or second generation or something that would be great. Hmmm... maybe a Canadian would be ideal, but I haven't seen many of them.