Maradona - of Italian descent or not?

Discussion in 'Italy' started by Romanista_NYC, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. Romanista_NYC

    Romanista_NYC Member

    Jun 19, 2006
    Basel, Switzerland
    Club:
    AS Roma
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    Italy
    I've heard some say that he's of Calabrese descent, but a look at gens.labo.net shows that the name Maradona doesn't come up.

    I've also seen posters here say that he's of Italian descent, but I found nothing to confirm that.

    He doesn't quite look Italian, and his parents look more like native South Americans than Italians.

    Just a curiosity, nothing more...would be interested in knowing.
     
  2. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    It should come up since his son Maradona Jr. lives in Italy! :D

    but yeah I think he has some Italian descent on his mother's side. I read his autobiography but he didn't mention anything.
     
  3. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    I read in another similar thread in BS a year or so ago his mother had Calabrese blood in her. Its pretty difficult to not find anyone in Argentina that is not of Italian descent
     
  4. JumpinJackFlash

    JumpinJackFlash New Member

    Mar 15, 2007
    Soviet Britannia
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    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Kazakhstan
    Isn't Maradona a Spanish surname?... I suppose its difficult to tell though because Italy and Spain share some of the same surnames.
     
  5. Gaetano

    Gaetano New Member

    Apr 24, 2007
    Lafayette, CA
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    SSC Napoli
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    I have read that Diego's father is of spanish/indigenous stock and his mother Dona Tota is at least part italian.
     
  6. solost22

    solost22 Member

    Apr 5, 2007
    Jersey
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    Juventus FC
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    Italy
    A lot of Italians moved to Argentina especially after World War II, so there is a good chance that he has some Italian blood
     
  7. JumpinJackFlash

    JumpinJackFlash New Member

    Mar 15, 2007
    Soviet Britannia
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    Juventus FC
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    Kazakhstan
    Hes also part Croatian.
     
  8. DDR

    DDR Moderator
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    Jun 13, 2006
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    And a 3rd Irish with a pinch of Black in him :D
     
  9. solost22

    solost22 Member

    Apr 5, 2007
    Jersey
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    Juventus FC
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    Italy
    and all these parts make him FAT
     
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  10. NickyViola

    NickyViola Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Boston
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    ACF Fiorentina
    And then when you consider that Calabria was ruled by the Spanish...
     
  11. Forzaabruzzo

    Forzaabruzzo Member+

    Apr 19, 2006
    Does it really matter in the end? :rolleyes:
     
  12. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Italy

    The way he moved the ball , I really didn't care if he was from Mars......:).
     
  13. NickyViola

    NickyViola Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Boston
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    ACF Fiorentina
    He may have been from Mars. He was definitely not like anyone else.
     
  14. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
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    Italy
    yes. We as Italians must claim every good Argentinian player in history somehow. :D
     
  15. solost22

    solost22 Member

    Apr 5, 2007
    Jersey
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    Juventus FC
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    Italy
    ha ha......so
     
  16. Khaloisha

    Khaloisha Member

    Jun 15, 2007
    Milano
    Sometimes some letters are lost in the travels outer Italy, so it could be that Maradona came from Maradonna, which is quite a common surname in Italy.
     
  17. NickyViola

    NickyViola Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Boston
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    ACF Fiorentina
    I have no idea how common that was for Italians emigrating to Argentina but it was very common here.
     
  18. serbov

    serbov New Member

    Jan 5, 2008
    Marakana
    What makes Maradona Croatian? Because his grandfather was Mateo Karioli from Korcula?He sounds Croatian to me as much as Marko Polo.
     
  19. JumpinJackFlash

    JumpinJackFlash New Member

    Mar 15, 2007
    Soviet Britannia
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    Juventus FC
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    Kazakhstan
    I didn't know what his grandfather was called, just heard that he was from Croatia. I take it hes quarter Dalmatian Italian then. :p

    At the end of the day I don't think it really matters since he will only ever be seen as "Argentinian" by the entire world since he won the World Cup with them. Rather than the other parts of his ethnicity such as Spanish, Italian, etc. The azzurri has the legacy of Roby Baggio anyway... and Omar Sivori (well Argentina has him too).

    Maybe if Maradona was a couple of decades earlier he would have played for Argentina then later Spain or Italy too, when that was allowed.
     
  20. pauldavid

    pauldavid New Member

    May 3, 2008
    Amsterdam
    Well, I believe about 70% of Argentina's population have at least some degree of Italian descent. For example, Claudio Caniggia clearly is of Italian descent. So I wouldn't be surprised at all if Maradona has indeed some degree of Italian descent. He's a mix of a lot of things and I think Italian descent is probably one of them.

    By the way, interesting theory about the "letters lost." As it was mentioned, that happened quite a lot in the USA. So it's not impossible that Maradona actually comes from Maradonna. But isn't Maradona also a possible Italian last name as well? It sounds Italian to me, but I'm not an expert on this.

    And people from Italian descent are not very rare anyway. I'm from The Netherlands and even I have also some degree of Italian descent (and my last name is Carli).
     
  21. St. Michael's Sword

    Mar 7, 2014
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    Juventus FC
    Not sure why this thread was resurrected but he clearly is Spanish, he may be from a Spanish line that lived in Italy for a while. That's not important though, what is important is that now half of Calabria is descended from Maradona!
     
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  22. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
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    And Napoli :)

    Want to have fun? Post this in one of the dozen "Maradona or Pele?" threads in B.S.

     
  23. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

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    Apr 1, 2012
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    #24 Gilbertsson, Dec 4, 2016
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2016
    His height says that he could be of Galician origins. But their surnames remind on Portuguese surnames.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Galician-language_surnames

    Atanancio Ramón Edisto Franco

    Franco usually reminds on Italian origins.

    Trinidad Creole Ferreira

    Ferreira could be of Portuguese, Galician origins, but also from Brazil and they mostly came from Portugal.

    Dalma Salvadora Franco Cariolichi

    Dalma came from the region called Dalmatia. I know that for sure. His Croatian origins are probably from island of Korcula. Some historians mention this island as birth island of Marco Polo.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Polo

    Southern Italy and Sicily have also Greek influence.

    http://www.cannitello.it/cognomi_greci.htm

    Footballers Anastasi, De Ascentis, Cesare Bovo, Alfio Basile, Cannavo (Cannavaro), basketballer Delfino, Stefano Eranio, Floccari, football coach Pizzi, Bernardo Romeo, Squillaci, Versace.

    Kanavaros exists in Greece in original form.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Graecia

    Maradona is better than Pele.:) Pele played in different, more ancient football era. Maradona belongs to contemporary category.

    Napulitan language

    https://nap.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Armando_Maradona

    For me, it's understandable.

    https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Armando_Maradona

    La sua famiglia ha origini italiane, spagnole, croate e nativo americane.
     
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  24. NickyViola

    NickyViola Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Boston
    Club:
    ACF Fiorentina
    I think it's folly to really compare guys from different eras, even if I enjoy it.

    Maradona is definitely the best I've ever seen, though, among attackers.
     

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