Post-match: Los Angeles FC - San Jose Earthquakes (Wednesday, 8/21) postgame thread [R]

That's the way I saw it.

And, as I've said, if the ref didn't actually see the play for himself he should look at the replay, regardless who's whispering in his ear. And if the VAR official saw ball hit arm, which he must have if he actually looked at the video, he needs to signal for a second opinion as to whether there was a clear and obvious error. This was a total systemic breakdown. Again.

 

Looking at the play again on VAR is an easy call. It has to happen.

 

I'll only say this: In 20 years as a defender, I had similar situations a couple of times and always had the call go against me (i.e. a penalty kick).

 

I think you're missing my point.

There was no VAR 20 years ago. I can understand that reasonable people may disagree after reviewing the replay. What there should not be disagreement about is that the replay should have been reviewed -- especially if the ref didn't see the play himself in real time.

 

Well, i don't know that Kevin was ever one to take a lot of advice...

 

He's an LA fan therefore, full of shit. I don't believe one word of his fiction. I have no doubt they're were taunting Almeyda with profanities and insults. None at all.

 

No, just bullshit.

 

Like I said, the rest of the league has caught on to our tactics and have adjusted accordingly.

 

That's the problem; we have a fantastic tactician as a coach, but he's hamstrung by a dog's dinner of a roster...

 

The best part of the video is the only part of his body that stopped the ball was his arm. Regardless of a hand ball or not, the defender impeded Vako's path and is the last defender.

Multiple reasons to review the play. Basically the next out and the resume of play from a goal kick was only about 15 seconds and 30 seconds from the time of the slide. Doesn't seem like enough time for even the VAR to review and decide. The CR should have stopped play to confirm the VAR had time to review and then restart.

 

I expect it would (or should) actually have been the lead AR, and not the VAR who could have notified Stott that the play may have warranted review. While I can't say for sure, it doesn't sound like communication was well-coordinated in this match.

 

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Let's consider that handball situation from another perspective. What if it happened in SJ's box by a SJ defender doing exactly the same thing when Vela was about to have an open shot?

You know the answer.

 

Or the "defensive finishing"!

 

We are watching PORvSEA right now, and hubby says that the reason Almeyda got sent off was because he touched Stott. Anyone else see that happen during the game, or read such an explanation?

If true, then I’m wondering when they will announce additional suspension...

 

Well, it’s Kind of weird how many wrong statements are being said everywhere.
i even made one — Now hubby says it was an announcer during the ATL-ORL game who said Almeyda touched Stott, not during the POR-SEA game. Plus maybe the announcers were referring to the 4th Official, not Stott. Who knows...

 

Woudn't it be nice if the adjudicator issued a reasoned decision after the match? Then we wouldn't have to speculate or use up our stash of aluminum foil.

 

Kevin Stott has never been a great referee, and this game does not change my perception on that score. He is one of those refs who go into every game with a pre-conceived notion of what is going to happen and sees the game based on that preconception.

He is clearly to blame in not asking for a VAR of clearly denied goal scoring opportunity under "Interesting" circumstances. A previous poster asked what would have happened if it had been Vela driving for goal, is there any doubt that Stott would have asked for VAR? Any doubt at all?

 

At today’s Tom Fox taco talk, I asked a staffer who got sent off. He said it was Almeyda and the translator, but not the GK coach. They don’t find out about additional suspensions until after today’s VAN game. He refused to talk about what actually happened or why the send offs. He said Fox has been talking to DISCO

 

Mentioned in Wondo thread, but posting here as well since the lack of a call (or at least review) was a big part of this game:

The Quakes have only had one PK awarded this season, which is ridiculous. I can't go back and re-watch every game to give a good estimate of how many I think they should have had, but it should have been more than 2 at this point.

And I am still very angry that the Accam foul on Espinoza was not reviewed during game (per rules it could be), and that no additional sanction was given to Accam after the fact. That reply is such damning evidence I do not understand how the league could take no action, it's like they pick and choose at random unless a superstar or super-team is involved.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/stats/team?sort=desc&order=PKA

 

They don't pick and choose at random. They pick and choose very carefully depending on how they think it will impact their business. They want to put the best product on the field as they can, which means overlooking bad plays by some teams or players, and punishing only those offenses they think they can't justify away.

 

We've gotten the short end a few times now, but we've had some gifts too. Things tend to equal out in the end (I don't believe in conspiracy stories).