I'm not defending United, but if you really support Tavlaridis's style of play, I guess we have very different taste.
i actually completely agree with you... i hate play like that... i also also dissapointed with acimovic when he dove (there was no foul, he stepped on some man utd guys foot and then dove away) ... i don't know tavlaridis that well... doesn't even sound like he's from france w/ that name... i really hope someone tells him to cool off... i was impressed nistelroy didn't just knock him out with a punch... i would have...
wow, buddy: that is one silly thing to say & you should know better. You do, right? Let's pretend we didn't *hear* this... You're probably wondering about his nationality & he's Greek: Efstathios Tavlaridis
um, i don't get it? i was saying i have not heard of him since i don't believe he's french... wasn't trying to say somthing mean or anything... i must be missing something then... i do think he deserved the yellow card as well as a few others on the lille team, i REALLY don't like simulations... below are interviews from ferguson and puel in french... if you understand french, you'll see that ferguson "refused" to shake puel's hand... what an idiot... thinks he's the ********** all the time... doesn't realize when he was beaten fair and square... i would like to say hopefully ferguson will learn one day, but he's already pretty old, so wake up or something alex!!!!!!! Alex Ferguson (entraîneur de Manchester United): «C'était un match dur. Le genre de match où quand une équipe marque, tu sais que cela va être dur de revenir. Je ne crois pas qu'on méritait de perdre mais on n'a pas assez bien joué pour gagner. On aurait pu marquer en deuxième mi-temps mais on n'a pas eu de chances. Le terrain était mauvais. Lille est une équipe concentrée, agressive, où tout le monde adhère au projet et ils sont difficiles à battre. On ne les a pas sous-estimés, on les a bien analysés même. Maintenant, il nous faut absolument battre Villarreal à domicile». Claude Puel (entraîneur de Lille): «Je n'ai pas de réaction sur le fait qu'il (Ferguson) n'a pas voulu me serrer la main. Je peux comprendre qu'il soit très déçu. J'ai vu un bon match de notre part : dans le jeu comme dans l'état d'esprit. Il y a rien à redire sur notre performance. On a mérité notre victoire. C'est le match que j'attendais, je ne pouvais pas l'attendre des joueurs au premier match contre Benfica. C'est un apprentissage, c'est notre première participation en Ligue des Champions (pour la plupart des joueurs) et il faut savoir jouer à son meilleur niveau. A chaque match, on a haussé notre niveau. Cette poule va être très indécise jusqu'au bout. Je crois qu'il faudra aller chercher la qualif lors du dernier match à Villarreal. C'est bien de se relancer et d'être revenu dans la course. Le match contre Benfica sera difficile avec une forte colonie portugaise au Stade de France. Il faudra à nouveau hausser notre niveau de jeu, c'est un éternel recommencement. On aurait pu marquer le 2 à 0 mais je retiens qu'on n'a pas concédé d'occasion. Manchester a eu une seule occasion et c'était sur coup de pied arrêté. C'est une performance face à une équipe du calibre de Manchester. On est dans des conditions très difficiles, on est dans une course à handicap mais je crois qu'on atteint nos objectifs.»
He is the main reason for my anger. It's pretty clear that we are playing like shít for a variety of irrelevant reasons. You cannot deny that fact. I am not expecting to win or perform at this moment in time. What makes matters even worse is when the referee makes an already difficult job for the team even harder by refusing to apply the rules of the game. I can accept defeat when another team is superior, when a smaller team just has a go, even if we just get a bad break. What I don't like is when a team sits back and fouls/cheats their way throughout a match. There is no need for it, particularly with our recent form. Mr Tavlaridis, showing what he has learned at Arsenal, persistently fouled his way through both games and got off with a single yellow card. He committed more fouls in 180 minutes than most players do throughout an entire season!
Ok, sorry then. Just a misunderstanding, that "language" thing...My mistake. Laisses tomber, c'est pas grave. Juste un malentendu alors...Je presume que ce ne serait pas arrive si on avait eu cette "conversation" en Francais. Desole. And I agree with you, I don't like simulations either. And Ferguson is an ass
qu'est ce que tu pensais que je voulais dire? no prob man, it's all good... good week for french teams so i'm happy
I just finished watching the VHS tape of the game, and I have to agree fully w/ you. He should have had a direct red for ramming Smith from behind and got off without even the second yellow. Lille played smart and rough and the ref didn't intervene when the rules called for it. ManU on the other hand played without determination and focus. All in all ,it was a poor game for the CL. A draw would have been acceptable, but I have to say, if there was to be a winner in this match , Lille deserved it. The gods of soccer smiled upon the French this time.
C'est le 12 décembre que sera connu le nom du site qui abritera le grand stade du LOSC parmi les sept lieux envisagés (Ancienne gare Saint-Sauveur, Altadis, Lille Sud, Communes de Lomme, Villeneuve d'Ascq, Ronchin et Lesquin). «Il n'y a plus de pensée unique : Grimonprez-Jooris ou rien» , s'est félicité Michel Seydoux, le président du LOSC, après l'entretien qu'il a eu lundi avec Pierre Mauroy, le président de Lille Métropole Communauté Urbaine (LCMU). L'option proposée se déroulera début février à l'issue du vote des élus communautaires. «Si les élus se prononcent en faveur de ce nouveau projet, l'extension de Grimonprez-Jooris est condamnée» , a précisé le président nordiste qui s'est prononcé en faveur d'un stade aux normes européennes d'une capacité de 50.000 places, financé par des fonds privés et publics. «L'étude pourrait être étendue aux problématiques des autres sports, notamment sur la possibilité d'adjoindre au projet une option palais des sports» , a ajouté Michel Seydoux. Le coup d'envoi du projet sera donné le 14 novembre avec la création d'une commission composée notamment des sept présidents de groupe de LCMU, de représentants du LOSC et des supporters. C'est le 17 décembre que sera lancée l'étude économique.
Tavalridis is actually English by birth I think. Brought up in North London, both of his parents are Greek. North London is home to a large Greek population. Came from the Arsenal youth system iirc.
He plays English. That isn't an insult either. I never thought I'd hear an English team, come to France, and complain about the physical nature of the continental play. In 1999 Man U would have come and smashed Lille (or a comparable french side) into the turf... bad pitch... bad referee... bad whatever no excuses. Now all we get from Man U are books of excuses. Man U has too many finesse players (Christiano Ronaldo is useless. Giggs is much less flashy but much more effective), too many premadonas (Rio Ferdinand anyone), and not enough heart in the middle of the pitch or on the touchline. Without Roy Keane you guys are shells of youselves, and that should be a real concern considering that he may have played his last match for you guys. Good luck against Benfica and Villareal, you will need it if you come as weak with them as you did with a small club from Northern France.
Anybody watching Lille-Benfica today? 2d half about to start, still 0-0 Lille really should be ahead by now, they've had lots of chances. If only they could finish them... The Stade de France looks filled up, probably majority Benefica fans but it's nice. It's on SopCast (TF1 broadcast), address is: sop://sop.sopcast.org:29019/channel-1547 Don't have Sopcast? Check here: http://www.live-foot.com/matchs
The ManU fans are calling Villareal cheaters on their thread.... Everyone cheats against ManU according to them. Classic losers.
FT 0-0 Too bad, they played pretty well, couldn't finish. And back to square one in this group... ___________________Pts______+/- 1___Villarreal________7_______1 2___Lille____________6_______0 -___Man United ______6_______0 4___Benfica_________5_______-1