Let the rebuild start... Summer 2018 transfer thread

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by chjoak, Apr 6, 2018.

  1. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    This used to be an issue in the amateur era of rugby where the very fit young guys would hit the weights in the off season to increase their weight - but then lots of it would come off during the season. Now they don't have that issue.

    It's what i find most suss about the Ozil transformation, that a guy with with a very high level of aerobic fitness can at the same time bulk up - but of course he would have juiced to bulk up and then used agents to cut to keep any extra weight off.
     
  2. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    It's most likely Froome was caught because he used a blood bag overnight. But they miscalculated on the Salbutamol he took plus what was in the bag.
     
  3. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    You can microdose EPO now.

    And given football has almost no testing - that means you can use it pretty liberally.
     
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  4. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    There is a philosophical question to be answered about blood doping. Andean highlanders have adapted to the thin air at altitude by naturally producing more hemoglobin in their blood. This is why Brazil and Argentina always struggle when playing Ecuador in Quito. This trait is apparently shared by Kenyan distance runners. So does blood doping, at least in track become a way of leveling the playing field?
     
  5. crazy150

    crazy150 Member+

    Aug 27, 2006
    North Cuba
    Ya. I’m not saying it’s objectionable in some absolute sense. But rules are rules and athletes agree to compete on the rules so it’s cheating.

    What about small kids taking hgh so they can compete? If Barry bonds and lance Armstrong get asterisks by their accomplishments why not messi?
     
  6. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Why stop there, what about genetic modification?
     
  7. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To get back to the transfers...

    Confirmed
    Lichtsteiner
    Leno

    Presumed Done (announcement pending)
    Sokratis
    Torreira

    Rumored Possible
    Soyuncu
    Banega
    Golovin
    Martins
    Pavon
    Lozano

    Confirmed Out
    Per
    Cazorla
    Jack

    Rumored on the Block
    Campbell
    Perez
    Ospina
     
  8. crazy150

    crazy150 Member+

    Aug 27, 2006
    North Cuba
    Of we get the pending ones done and 1-2 of the rumored I think it will be a productive window...Pending of course the Ramsey situation.

    I wonder if we might lose someone else though?
     
  9. Gunning4Chelsea

    Gunning4Chelsea Member+

    Aug 2, 2005
    chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would pass on banega..

    Granted I only watched him when he plays for Argentina and bit for Sevilla but I do not rate him highly
     
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  10. The Foo Fighter

    The Foo Fighter Member+

    Mar 15, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gelson Martins is on a free after terminating his contract, so that's someone we've been linked with. He would give us some much needed wing depth.

    However, with us being linked with Banega and having signed Torreira, I wonder if Emery is wanting to play with putting one of Rambo and Ozil out wide.
     
  11. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    GK is obviously set after selling Ospina
    DF is set unless we add another CB. In that case I think Holding ends up on loan.
    MF depth chart could be set (assuming Ramsey stays) if Emery is willing to go young (Ramsey, Xhaka, Torreira, ElNeny, AMN, Iwobi). Otherwise we could see another vet added with Iwobi going on loan.
    W is a little light (Miki, Ozil, Nelson). PEA, Welbeck and Iwobi could play there as well but I think it would be good to buy another W for depth/competition.
    ST is in pretty good shape.
     
  12. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    You have to take into account the over 21 non homegrown roster limit when looking at potential transfers. If Campbell and Perez are sold there is one roster spot available. If Ospina is also sold that gives you two foreign born over 21 players to speculate about.
     
  13. KozIsCul

    KozIsCul Member+

    Feb 6, 2005
    I expect us to sell at least one or two players, five or six at the outside.

    I have no inside info, of course, but I suspect we're working on a new strategy for moving players on. Instead of pleading and bribing them, we're simply buying their replacements first and waiting for them to ask for a transfer (or not). Clearly there are a few players who might expect to be in the first XI in some circumstances who won't be, and we have to see what their ambitions are.
     
  14. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    What the cnuting fcuk is goi f on in the transfer thread?
     
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  15. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seen numerous claims since last night stating that Soyuncu has openly expressed a desire to join Arsenal.
     
  16. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    RE Banega... seeing reports that A) Sevilla is looking for 10-12m GBP and B) Banega is willing to be reunited with Emery but before he signs he wants a conversation about his role.
     
  17. Rewinder

    Rewinder Member+

    Jun 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Banega is too old. Two years from now we need a crop of young talent that has spent two seasons developing and is ready to push on to the next level. We shouldn’t be in the position of having to dump a bunch of over 30s and rebuild again.
     
  18. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How about Rabiot?
    PSG has to offload 60m Euro from their roster by next summer. They are supposedly shopping Rabiot (unhappy), Lo Celso & Di Maria (both considered surplus). Saw something yesterday that Juventus was offered to buy 1 of the 3 but they opted out. Rumored asking price is 50m Euro for Rabiot. Would you do it?

    If we can fit it in the budget I would pull the trigger in a heartbeat. My only concern with Rabiot is the "me first" mentality that comes across in the media.
     
  19. crazy150

    crazy150 Member+

    Aug 27, 2006
    North Cuba
    Always liked him. I’d go for him if Ramsey leaves.
    We already had this discussion. He’s old, but too old to play as many games as jack did? No. He would be useful for a couple of season, help our players adapt to Emery’s style, bring some experience to the table and he can beat a press with his dribbling—something no one on our current squad can do.
     
  20. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We're gonna need more homegrown players. I think that's why Chambers and Holding are sticking around. They have a chance to be good and fill a quota need.
     
  21. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Really depends on what they plan from here on out and if anyone HG leaves...

    GK (3) - Leno, Cech, Macey/Martinez
    DF (9) - Nacho, Kolo, Lichtsteiner, Bellerin, Sokratis, Mustafi, Chambers, Mavropanos, Holding/New CB
    MF (10) - Torreira, Xhaka, Ramsey, Miki, Ozil, ElNeny, AMN, Nelson, Iwobi, New guy
    FW (3) - PEA, Laca, Welbeck

    That's 15 non-HG giving us 2 international spots to play with for a CB and a W if we want. So if Ramsey stays they could in theory add Soyucu at CB (loaning Holding) and Martins and still be ok under the HG rules. If they also have to replace Ramsey, then atleast one of the CB, W or CM will have to be a HG or U21.

    Not sure if Mavropanos, AMN or Nelson has to actually be registered since they are under 21. So I guess we could see a couple different guys actually registered. Though if they are replaced on the 25 it likely needs to be a HG due to the numbers.
     
  22. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do we need 4 club grown players for the EL? I know you do for CL
     
  23. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    honestly, i really want martinez, holding, and maitland-niles to be on loan and get significant playing time rather than be here for part-time duties.
     
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  24. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Reading more on the Sporting situation. Based on what I have heard, just because Martins, Carvalho, etc... "cancelled" their contract, doesn't mean they are 100% free. The players may have to pay some restitution for leaving the club when they had a valid contract. Read this morning that Martins says that he will not sign with any club unless they agree to pay whatever fee he ends up owing to Sporting.
     
  25. Shen-O

    Shen-O Guest

    Still will be a relatively low amount. When your supporters crash training and beat you and a bunch of others up, you have valid grounds for cancellation.
     

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