Les Bleues - France WNT

Discussion in 'Women's International' started by Gromit06, Jul 30, 2013.

  1. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    Huh? Hamraoui is NOT on the roster, right? She's not listed. I don't follow the French league or NT, but I have seen Hamraoui play quite a bit for Barcelona, and she is very good. I'm surprised she's not been picked.
     
  2. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    I think Hamraoui is the linchpin of the Barcelona team, and she scored the only (winning) goal in the first leg of Champions League semifinal against Bayern. So it's odd she wouldn't make the French NT squad. I wonder if she got word that she wasn't going to be picked before the second match against Bayern, which might explain why she was in a noticeably churlish mood from the beginning and ended up getting red-carded. It's been a bad few days for her.
     
  3. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Hamraoui was called up once by Diacre in the last two seasons. It is one of those very debatable choice considering she has a very athletic profile unlike all our midfielders. But she is silly and gets yellow cards quite often unfortunately.
     
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  4. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Yes, poor u-20 tourney, not at her best since being called up. I still think not taking someone who has scored 40+ league goals in two seasons is a big gamble.
     
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  5. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Quotes from the press conference :
    "The FFF president has set a target of reaching the final"
    So unless a miracle happen, she will get the sack...
    On the alternates in case of injury, she has submitted the full 50 players list according to the FIFA regulations, so she has 27 alternates available to choose from.
    Hamraoui : " I know her player profile, she has been an internaional player fora while. I simply chose Clemaron instead of her to balance the squad"
     
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  6. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    The France team will go into camp on the 8th of May. The FFF has actually published the whole program day by day.

    Mercredi 8 mai
    15h00 : arrivée à Perros-Guirec
    17h30 : entraînement

    Jeudi 9 mai
    10h00 : entraînement ouvert au public (sur invitation uniquement)
    17h30 : activité

    Vendredi 10 mai
    10h00 : entraînement ouvert au public (sur invitation uniquement)
    16h00 : activité

    Samedi 11 mai
    10h00 : entraînement
    Départ de Perros-Guirec dans l'après-midi

    Dimanche 12 mai
    Journée libre

    Lundi 13 mai
    13h00 : arrivée à Clairefontaine
    15h30 : tests physiques

    Mardi 14 mai
    7h00 : entraînement
    10h30 : entraînement
    17h00 : entraînement

    Mercredi 15 mai
    10h00 : entraînement ouvert au public
    17h00 : activité

    Jeudi 16 mai
    7h00 : entraînement
    10h30 : entraînement
    17h00 : entraînement

    Vendredi 17 mai
    10h00 : entraînement
    17h00 : entraînement

    Samedi 18 mai
    10h00 : entraînement
    Départ de Clairefontaine dans l'après-midi

    Dimanche 19 mai
    Journée libre

    Lundi 20 mai
    Journée libre

    Mardi 21 mai
    14h00 : arrivée à Clairefontaine
    15h00 : tests physiques
    17h00 : entraînement ouvert au public

    Mercredi 22 mai
    9h00 : photo officielle
    10h00 : entraînement
    17h00 : entraînement

    Jeudi 23 mai
    10h00 : entraînement
    17h00 : entraînement

    Vendredi 24 mai
    17h00 : entraînement

    Samedi 25 mai
    9h45 : départ vers Orléans
    11h30 : balade
    16h00 : FRANCE - THAÏLANDE à Orléans (Stade de la Source)
    Dislocation après le match

    Dimanche 26 mai
    Journée libre

    Lundi 27 mai
    16h30 : arrivée à Clairefontaine
    18h00 : entraînement ouvert au public

    Mardi 28 mai
    10h00 : entraînement
    16h30 : entraînement

    Mercredi 29 mai
    10h00 : entraînement
    16h00 : entraînement

    Jeudi 30 mai
    17h00 : entraînement

    Vendredi 31 mai
    10h00 : départ vers Créteil
    17h00 : balade
    21h00 : FRANCE - CHINE à Créteil (Stade Dominique Duvauchelle)
    23h00 : retour à Clairefontaine

    Samedi 1er juin
    15h30 : entraînement
    Soirée libre

    Dimanche 2 juin
    18h00 : arrivée des joueuses à Clairefontaine

    Lundi 3 juin
    10h00 : entraînement ouvert au public (sur invitation)

    Mardi 4 juin
    16h30 : entraînement

    Mercredi 5 juin
    10h30 : entraînement
    Installation à Paris dans l'après-midi

    Jeudi 6 juin
    11h00 : familiarisation au Parc des Princes
    11h30 : conférence de presse au Parc des Princes
    16h30 : entraînement à Croissy

    Vendredi 7 juin
    10h00 : réveil musculaire
    21h00 : FRANCE - COREE DU SUD à Paris (Parc des Princes)

    Samedi 8 juin
    Départ pour Nice dans l'après-midi
    17h00 : entraînement à Mandelieu

    Dimanche 9 juin
    10h00 : entraînement à Mandelieu ouvert au public (sur invitation)

    Lundi 10 juin
    16h30 : entraînement à Mandelieu

    Mardi 11 juin
    11h00 : conférence de presse au Stade de Nice
    16h30 : entraînement à Mandelieu

    Mercredi 12 juin
    10h00 : réveil musculaire
    21h00 : FRANCE - NORVEGE à Nice (Allianz Riviera)

    Jeudi 13 juin
    Départ pour Rennes dans l'après-midi
    17h00 : entraînement à Cesson-Sévigné

    Vendredi 14 juin
    10h00 : entraînement à Cesson-Sévigné ouvert au public

    Samedi 15 juin
    16h30 : entraînement à Cesson-Sévigné

    Dimanche 16 juin
    11h00 : conférence de presse au Roazhon Park de Rennes
    16h30 : entraînement au Roazhon Park à Rennes

    Lundi 17 juin
    21h00 : NIGERIA - FRANCE à Rennes (Roazhon Park)
     
  7. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    #2132 shlj, May 4, 2019
    Last edited: May 4, 2019
    The biggest problem is our lack of depth. If I rate our squad out of 5 stars, here is what I have ( based, on experience, honors and potential)

    2* Durand, Clemaron, Debever, Asseyi, Bilbault, Gauvin, Laurent
    3* Peyraud-Magnin, Torrent, Karchaoui, Diani, Cascarino, Tounkara, Perisset,
    4* Bouhaddi, Majri, M'Bock-Bathy, Bussaglia, Thiney, Geyoro,
    5* Henry, Renard, Le Sommer

    The two stars players are not bad, just unproven at the highest level. We have a decent starting 11, then quality decreases.
     
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  8. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I would diagree with the 3 stars players; this year Diani & Cascarino have definitely outshown LeSommer(no slouch by any means). If the Deacon would only start duo together, then it would be the strongest front line in the world, I would even favor if over the US of Heath-Morgan-Rapinoe(my pick as 2nd best). Tounkara has proven she can step in for either of the starting CB's(she started in the last two games vs the US). There's very few that I can think of that are better than Karchaoui at left-back & can always move Majri to left mid(as Sakia is a way better defender)

    As starters, Torrent, Bouhaddi, Thiney(&/if, Bussaagila, are the weakest. But the Deacon could go to a 3-back, minusing at least two of those starters.

    I agree, probably not that deep, but to think that the Deacon prefers one-goal-a-season, Laurent over 22 goal scorer, Katoto is insane! and definitely could of used the physical prowess of Hamraoui in there
     
  9. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Bouhaddi's burden are her "obligatory" blunders that make her unreliable, even in big games. On the other hand, she's still able to make saves that few GKs in the women's game would be able to make (see the match vs Dijon from the 24th of April that gave the title to OL).

    If you could subtract from Bouhaddi's game her usual, irritating, amateurish mistakes, the rest of her game would actually be high level. But of course, these years have shown that it's impossible, so she can't actually be considered the top-level GK that she could have been.
     
  10. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    The French have a ton of talent and could very well win the World Cup. This could be their moment. The team has a lot of quality up front and in the back; it's the midfield, other than Henry, that might be key to its fortunes.
     
  11. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I would pick her over the Geman's insistance on going with Schult(who looked misreable vs Japan & Lyon/though probably ENG, CA & US have better sets of GK's
     
  12. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    here would be US vs France, player vs player, head to head competition, if these are the starters for both teams. The pointed arrow indicates who won

    GK....Naylor<Bouhaddi

    DF,,,,,Sonnett<Torrent....Dahlkemper>MBock....Brunn>Renard.....Dunn<Karchaoui

    MD.......Pugh>Henry...........Ertz<Thiney.............Horan<Majri

    FW......Heath=Cascarino........Morgan>Diani.........Rapinoe>ELS

    SUBS..............US<France

    Home AdV.........US>France

    COACH...........US=France

    thus I get a draw,so.............never mind!

    ........
     
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  13. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can't figure out how you're using the arrow since it's also the "greater than/lesser than" sign.
    It's also Naeher, not Naylor. New Zealsnd's GK is Naylor
     
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  14. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    In fact, I have to admit I only figured they were meant to be arrows when I have read:

    Home AdV.........US>France

    Since it couldn't possibly mean that US had home advantage, I had to re-read everything accordingly! :laugh:
     
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  15. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Aha, its arrows, not greater than/less than! Well, now I'm reading it completely differently...
     
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  16. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah I saw that too! But then... oh OK. It's highly debatable that Morgan>Diani, meaning Diani is superior to Morgan. Also I'm totally unsure that "Naylor" (Naeher)< Bouhaddi, meaning the US had advantage at GK. I really don't think that's the case. At best I think the US GKs are about equal to Bouhaddi, capable of world-class saves but also capable of bad judgment
     
  17. FawcettFan14

    FawcettFan14 Member+

    Mar 19, 2004
    Colorado
    The decision to omit Katoto, the league's leading scorer and "next big thing" in French women's football, seems insane to me. Can anyone elaborate on why this happened?
     
  18. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    She had an awful U-20 WWC last Summer, when she allegedly dragged the team towards the bottom instead of lifting it up.

    There is a disagreement on the reasons for this as well we all know there are three sides to every story. Some blame her entourage, others just say, she did not manage the pressure very well being the team captain and expecting to lead the team to victory.

    Then when she was called up for the Senior squad, she was asked to put more effort in training by the manager. She did score as a sub against the USA, but it looks like she did not work hard enough.

    While her competitors like Cascarino and Asseyi , who were also warned to improve their performances by being dropped from squads, ended up rising up their performance level in the last six months, she did not do it in big games either in Champions League or against Lyon.

    So she was overtaken by Emelyne Laurent another U-20 graduate who went on loan in January from Lyon to Guingamp to gain playing time.

    The fact is Katoto finished topscorer in the League and has scored 40+ league goals in two seasons and it is certainly a big gamble not to take her to the tournament.
     
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  19. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Morgan's done well for the USWNT, but that's cuz Ellis works her as a single/centralized striker & she's obviously backed up stong supporting cast. But look at the other team she plays on; the NWSL Pride; last year she was tied for 15th among league goal scorers(5 goals in over 1500 min.). So far this year; Morgan's scored zero goals in 4 games/360 minutes of playing time. Guess we could blame her Pride team somewhat, but it too has an powerful lineup; 3 USWNT's 3 Brazilians(including Marta), 2 starting Matildas(Kennedy & Van Egmond)
    In comparison, Diani had strong games vs the US & Japan so far this year, plus on PSG(where she was more of a winger) she leads the French league in assists sd well the 3rd leading goal scorer

    Naeher isn't flashy like Solo used to be, but safe. Compare that to Bouhaddi, one look at this video & you see what I mean(first goal). And believe me, it's not the first time she's gaffe'd like this
     
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  20. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with your assessment of Morgan's shortcomings in league play for her clubs. For purposes of comparing her with Diani or anyone else at the World Cup I only considered her play with the national team, where she's a proven star and, for whatever reason, she's always been much more successful playing for country rather than club.
    Nobody has had quite the memorable gaffes that Bouhaddi's had, but Naeher and Harris make their share of mistakes and I think, as far as net results go, they're about equal with Bouhaddi in their effects, both pro and con, for their teams.
     
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  21. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    the Decaon actually prefers a player named Gauvin as starting central/striker & Diani at right/winger, than switches Diani to center when she brings in Cascarino at right. Why she don't ant to start Cascarino(who's in my book is on par with Tobin Heath & Caro Hansen) is a good question. Got the feeling is that Cascarino is very injury prone.
    Gauvin though does remind of Morgan, a rather weakish performance at the club level(6 goals in 20 games for the stacked but under performing Montpelier club). i would than definitely prefer Morgan over Gauvin

    here is an AP article on why the Deacon didn't pick Katoto
    Diacre defends leaving Katoto out of France's WCup squad
     
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  22. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Diacre at the usual press conference :
    "I have no doubt about my starting 11, but the more possibilities I have the better it will be. If one or two playaer can install a bit of doubt in my head, this would be great, it would be some good problems for me to solve. I have potentially 14 starters. "

    The starting 11 should be

    Bouhaddi
    Torrent Renard M'Bock Bathy Majri
    Henry, Bussaglia or Geyoro, Thiney
    Cascarino or Diani, Diani or Gauvin, Le Sommer

    The team also had a surprise doping control from the French autority the AFLD.
     
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  23. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    What's the strongest unit here, Shij--back four, midfield or forwards?
     
  24. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Probably our defense. Midfield is ok and attack is ok. As the coach mentioned she has 14 starters ie good players. Lack of depth as I have said before.
     
  25. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    As seen in the recent WCL final also, I guess Renard/Mbock Bathy is probably the strongest CBs duo in the world. And Majri is a Full-Back who can actually join the attack and cross like a real winger. I know Torrent a little less, but the trio of OL players alone form an intimidating defensive unit already.
     

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