Latest SSV Newsletter (Thursday, April 19): SJSU says no; Plan B on tap

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by Jay Hipps, Apr 19, 2007.

  1. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    This is a very possible, and depressing possibility.

    How long will he be willing to hang in there?
     
  2. dakotajoe

    dakotajoe Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Medford, OR
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS won't allow a return of a MLS franchise is SJ/Bay Area without a stadium deal. Which is why '08 is not even optimistic at this point.
     
  3. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How do we know whether or not Plan B is barely off the ground?


    Of course there is. :D


    I'm not so sure those local options are running out as fast as you may think.

    It ain't over...


    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :cool:


    -G
     
  4. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    I don't want to even say it with the news today but even with Wolff doing all he can there are so many issues and snags to get through with any location.

    2010 is best case IMO. For a team return after staduim approval.
     
  5. Loco4Footie

    Loco4Footie New Member

    Jul 31, 2005
    San Francisco
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Not surprising, but I am stunned that Kassing and Co. decided to call it quits so quickly, particularly when he held most, if not all, of the cards. This doesn't make sense because since when do parties break off negotiations just when they're getting ready to head down the stretch?
     
  6. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006

    You kid on this, right?

    Man, you are optimistic. When I get down I am calling you!
     
  7. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006

    When the numbers are just way to far apart for either parties liking.
     
  8. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Are we sure Plan B is just barely off the ground? Has all the silence been because there was Plan A & Plan B waiting in the wings just in case Plan A fell thru??

    I trust no von no von! Shultz vat izzz dis man doing herreeeee!
    [​IMG]
     
  9. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We don't know that, particularly since there's been a Plan B for quite some time (only having taken a backseat in the last few weeks so that Wolff could concentrate on trying to finalize a deal with SJSU).

    As a matter of fact, it even become "Plan B" until the SJSU talks came to the fore around December or so - until then, it was just one of several (or several of several) concurrently-running plans. Today's events simply means that those simply come back to the frontburner.

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :cool:


    -G
     
  10. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    Have a very hard time believing somebody would not have heard soemthing.

    If it is off the ground people would have talked to higher ups in other areas.

    Talking baout a nyriad of issues, with quite a few people involved.

    Just too much stuff to be far along. Something would beknown by now.

    I am sure Wolff has a plan ready, but I bet it is just for initial presentation.
     
  11. FUAEG

    FUAEG Member+

    Oct 18, 2005
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The silence, the city's reluctance to release Wolff's initial proposal, could have been because the Fairgounds was mentioned in Wolff's proposal to the city. The city couldn't release that because it would have soured the SJSU deal.
     
  12. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    The Quakes won't be back until a stadium deal is in place (nor will any other expansion team for that matter, according to MLS brass). But, once a deal is in place, there's nothing wrong with renting Spartan (or even, if need be, Stanford or Candlestick) for a year or two until the new place is completed.
     
  13. FUAEG

    FUAEG Member+

    Oct 18, 2005
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe the long pole would remain the funding which doesn't happen until the re-zonning meeting in March '08. Wolff and the County have 11 months to get a plan together.
     
  14. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You must spread some Repuation around before giving some to falvo again.

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :cool:


    -G
     
  15. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You know, way back when Wolff first said he wanted to return the Quakes he mentioned that they could put X amount of dollars toward a stadium, that he just needed the land. Back then it sounded like they would put up their own money. And then down the line we hear about the rezoning idea to pay for the stadium. Perhaps he will just find some land in San Jose to buy outright and then convince the city to still do the I-Star rezoning.
     
  16. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly why the upcoming San Jose Earthquakes may start playing in 2008.

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :cool:


    -G
     
  17. dakotajoe

    dakotajoe Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Medford, OR
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Goodsie,
    You are right. Wolff's option doesn't run out until 2009. Hopefully there are really Plan B, Plan C and Plan D in the mix.
     
  18. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    That's an excellent point. One for hope.
     
  19. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    As long as there is no Plan F......Never liked that letter
    Or for that matter, Plan FU!;) directed towards SJSU

    I wonder if Kassing's first name is Oliver & that's why the Plan A was jinxed?
    [​IMG]
    BTW, SierraSpartan bid adeu to all of us & said he goodbye implying he would no longer post when he found out the news...Although he gave me some nice positive comments, why isn't he going to post anymore? Was he an SJSU plant or what?
     
  20. KMJvet

    KMJvet BigSoccer Supporter

    May 26, 2001
    Quake Country
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe having a plan B is what allows Wolff to walk away pretty easily. Kassing's plan B is do nothing in that it doesn't really appear anyone there (meaning anyone who matters or a critical mass of people who don't matter except as a big group) cares about Spartan athletics much anyway.
     
  21. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Definitely something to think about!

    Seriously, would Wolff really have just walked away like that if he truly needed to compromise to the extent that Kassing demanded?

    Hmm...

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :cool:


    -G
     
  22. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    He will use it as a big feather in his cap also. The protecting the chool, it's interests and it's students. Nothing like waving the flag to defend your view.

    Welcome to politics.
     
  23. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    Let's hope. Maybe he is smart enough to know when to walk away form an unwrokable deal, rather than waste time.

    The silver lining if thi sis the case is that you won't have to wait long to find out what he will do next and if it will work.:eek:
     
  24. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also, he wouldn't have just walked away so easily if the SJSU deal was his only near-future local stadium option. :)

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :cool:


    -G
     
  25. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Hey Gosdsie,
    does this mean we can't smoke any dubee's on the roof? :D ;)
     

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