MLS won't allow a return of a MLS franchise is SJ/Bay Area without a stadium deal. Which is why '08 is not even optimistic at this point.
How do we know whether or not Plan B is barely off the ground? Of course there is. I'm not so sure those local options are running out as fast as you may think. It ain't over... GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! -G
I don't want to even say it with the news today but even with Wolff doing all he can there are so many issues and snags to get through with any location. 2010 is best case IMO. For a team return after staduim approval.
Not surprising, but I am stunned that Kassing and Co. decided to call it quits so quickly, particularly when he held most, if not all, of the cards. This doesn't make sense because since when do parties break off negotiations just when they're getting ready to head down the stretch?
Are we sure Plan B is just barely off the ground? Has all the silence been because there was Plan A & Plan B waiting in the wings just in case Plan A fell thru?? I trust no von no von! Shultz vat izzz dis man doing herreeeee!
We don't know that, particularly since there's been a Plan B for quite some time (only having taken a backseat in the last few weeks so that Wolff could concentrate on trying to finalize a deal with SJSU). As a matter of fact, it even become "Plan B" until the SJSU talks came to the fore around December or so - until then, it was just one of several (or several of several) concurrently-running plans. Today's events simply means that those simply come back to the frontburner. GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! -G
Have a very hard time believing somebody would not have heard soemthing. If it is off the ground people would have talked to higher ups in other areas. Talking baout a nyriad of issues, with quite a few people involved. Just too much stuff to be far along. Something would beknown by now. I am sure Wolff has a plan ready, but I bet it is just for initial presentation.
The silence, the city's reluctance to release Wolff's initial proposal, could have been because the Fairgounds was mentioned in Wolff's proposal to the city. The city couldn't release that because it would have soured the SJSU deal.
The Quakes won't be back until a stadium deal is in place (nor will any other expansion team for that matter, according to MLS brass). But, once a deal is in place, there's nothing wrong with renting Spartan (or even, if need be, Stanford or Candlestick) for a year or two until the new place is completed.
I believe the long pole would remain the funding which doesn't happen until the re-zonning meeting in March '08. Wolff and the County have 11 months to get a plan together.
You must spread some Repuation around before giving some to falvo again. GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! -G
You know, way back when Wolff first said he wanted to return the Quakes he mentioned that they could put X amount of dollars toward a stadium, that he just needed the land. Back then it sounded like they would put up their own money. And then down the line we hear about the rezoning idea to pay for the stadium. Perhaps he will just find some land in San Jose to buy outright and then convince the city to still do the I-Star rezoning.
Exactly why the upcoming San Jose Earthquakes may start playing in 2008. GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! -G
Goodsie, You are right. Wolff's option doesn't run out until 2009. Hopefully there are really Plan B, Plan C and Plan D in the mix.
As long as there is no Plan F......Never liked that letter Or for that matter, Plan FU! directed towards SJSU I wonder if Kassing's first name is Oliver & that's why the Plan A was jinxed? BTW, SierraSpartan bid adeu to all of us & said he goodbye implying he would no longer post when he found out the news...Although he gave me some nice positive comments, why isn't he going to post anymore? Was he an SJSU plant or what?
Maybe having a plan B is what allows Wolff to walk away pretty easily. Kassing's plan B is do nothing in that it doesn't really appear anyone there (meaning anyone who matters or a critical mass of people who don't matter except as a big group) cares about Spartan athletics much anyway.
Definitely something to think about! Seriously, would Wolff really have just walked away like that if he truly needed to compromise to the extent that Kassing demanded? Hmm... GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! -G
He will use it as a big feather in his cap also. The protecting the chool, it's interests and it's students. Nothing like waving the flag to defend your view. Welcome to politics.
Let's hope. Maybe he is smart enough to know when to walk away form an unwrokable deal, rather than waste time. The silver lining if thi sis the case is that you won't have to wait long to find out what he will do next and if it will work.
Also, he wouldn't have just walked away so easily if the SJSU deal was his only near-future local stadium option. GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! -G