LA Galaxy Flavored USMNT in 2018

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  1. Skevin

    Skevin Member+

    Aug 9, 2009
    Colorado
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    USA is in a crucial time with their manager. Lots of young talented players coming through the ranks. England had a similar situation when they had a terrible showing in 2016, and decided to switch to their younger players. Southgate facilitated that change, and made sure the players were ready for a major tournament.

    That is what we need. Keep a few of our older players, implement a new system that works with those players, and hope these players can carry us.
     
  2. The Cadaver

    The Cadaver It's very quiet here.

    Oct 24, 2000
    La Cañada, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So which is the more clueless organisation: LAG F.O. or USSF. Discuss.
     
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  3. skydog

    skydog Member+

    Aug 1, 1999
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Until about ten or fifteen years ago it seemed US men's soccer was on a continuous upward trajectory. The USMNT looked like it would continue to improve from a roughly top 30 national team to a team that would rank in the teens for the foreseeable future. In the mid 2000's it looked like MLS would pass NHL and TV contracts would continue to grow exponentially. Garber was making a lot of smart decisions and everyone was optimistic. And at a more selfish level of analysis it was clear that the Galaxy would continue to be the cream of the crop in MLS.

    Then things started to change - and not for the better. USSF hired Klinnsman and he brought along a level of egotism and incompetence that slowly killed off the never say die spirit of the national team. Pointing fingers took the place of ever improving. A great opportunity to build on the legacy of the best American to ever play the game and possibly help us make a magical run during the 2014 WC was thrown on the trash heap because of a personal vendetta. At the pro level MLS players approved a collective bargaining agreement more designed to protect their jobs than grow the league's popularity. And even my beloved Galaxy started making mistakes. Players who played their hearts out for us were jettisoned in favor of new, shiny and ultimately defective baubles. Bad decision after bad decision started infecting all three organizations - USSF, MLS and our LAG. All of the repositories of my soccer hopes all seemed to stall or start going downhill.

    So the answer to your questions is they are all clueless. The only good news is that I don't think our leaders could do worse.

    But who knows? In recent years I've learned that incompetence seems to know no bounds.
     
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  4. Skevin

    Skevin Member+

    Aug 9, 2009
    Colorado
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    I worry the US will go the way of Australia where they are a respectable nation on the world stage, but never really a threat outside their region.
     
  5. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Greg Berhalter USMNT
    Tito Martinez Mexico NT
    Patrick Vieira OGC Nice
    Jesse Marsch RB Leizpig
    Oscar Pareja Club Tijuana

    Pulisic Dortmund
    Adams RB Leizpig
    Mckennie Schalke
    Chris Richards Bayern
    Sargent Werder Bremen
    Soto Hannover

    Despite the programs shortcomings and stupidity we still are creating a pipeline of talent. This is good to see. If we can continue to fix things it will only get better.
     
  6. Grumpy in LA

    Grumpy in LA Bringing It Since 1807™

    Sep 10, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which is bigger: infinity or eternity?
     
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  7. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. Skevin

    Skevin Member+

    Aug 9, 2009
    Colorado
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    That XI is terrible. We are going to get killed.
     
  9. 73Bruin

    73Bruin Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
    Torrance, California
    Infinity is bigger but eternity lasts longer.;)
     
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  10. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Everyone wanted Sacharan to play the kids. Well this is it...
     
  11. skydog

    skydog Member+

    Aug 1, 1999
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Where have I heard this before? It seems familiar somehow.
     
  12. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    So maybe it is close to call on who is run worse at the moment
     
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  13. Beirut

    Beirut Member+

    Feb 3, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I've always been a club over country guy, but the gap is only increasing.

    Between the Klinsmann era, not going to the World Cup, the racism exhibited by some supporter groups, and the incompetence-- or corruption, maybe corruption is a better word-- we've seen this year, it's been hard for me to even make the effort watch.

    How do you not interview this guy?
     
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  14. skydog

    skydog Member+

    Aug 1, 1999
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    US soccer said they weren’t interested because they were “too far down the line” in the hiring process?? That’s depressing if true.
     
  15. Beirut

    Beirut Member+

    Feb 3, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
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  16. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This hiring has been a joke. We've wasted a year. I like Berhalter and think he will do well but after all of this how can you not check every stone it's like the Galaxy "searching the world" to hire Curt Onalfo


     
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  17. Skevin

    Skevin Member+

    Aug 9, 2009
    Colorado
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    This is so depressing to hear. He had a great record with Spain, and I think he could have implemented a better style for us.

    I think Berhalter would do fine, but this is like comparing Bob Bradley to Conte.
     
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  18. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    US/UK dual citizen in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Horrendous spell with Real Madrid though and WC qualification results often flatter to deceive.

    Berhalter knows US soccer and has been consistently successful in difficult circumstances.

    I'm not sure that it's as much of a no-brainer as people are suggesting.

    And remember who else had an impressive record with a powerhouse national team, only to flop at the helm of his nation's biggest club....
     
  19. GalaxyOne

    GalaxyOne Member+

    Dec 6, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You mean in the long term future? Because that is all we are now, really ever have been (at best) and realistically will be for the next 10 years at least. But long term, I have to think our prospects are better than Australia just based on sheer numbers, and continued build up of the sport here.
     
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  20. GalaxyOne

    GalaxyOne Member+

    Dec 6, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They probably didn't interview this guy BECAUSE he would be too much like Klinsman (i.e. a European that would demand effort, toughness and commitment from his players, rather than coddle them). And we know how popular that type of coach turned out to be with the players and fan base.
     
  21. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    US/UK dual citizen in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    You can't be serious??

    Effort, toughness and commitment were the hallmarks of the USMNT prior to Klinsmann.

    The expectation was that JK would supplement those qualities with greater tactical thinking and an overhaul of the nation's technical development.

    Instead we got a lot of talk and politicking.
     
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  22. skydog

    skydog Member+

    Aug 1, 1999
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    ^^^ This.
     
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  23. GalaxyOne

    GalaxyOne Member+

    Dec 6, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hallmarks 15 to 25 years ago, sure, and yes that was before Klinsman, so your statement is technically correct. But that was a different breed of player that didn't need the toughness instilled by a coach, because they were already tough. Not these coddled sissies representing the USMNT these days.
     
  24. skydog

    skydog Member+

    Aug 1, 1999
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I think the problem was that JK kept introducing chaos into the system. He never developed a core of players who could build chemistry over time. His teams always played like a bunch of individual talents thrown together at the last minute. Continual uncertainty about status and roles even made players lose individual confidence, forget about building a team that would fight for each other and be more than the sum of their parts.
    tldr vers - his teams were a mess, from start to finish
     
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  25. Beep Boop Robot

    Mar 11, 2015
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I think JK's decline happened the second he alienated the USMNT's best player in history before the 2014 World Cup. I don't think any player agreed with him that it was the right call and JK ultimately lost the locker room. Once the 2014 World Cup was over the Nats went downhill.
     
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