Kids who aren't citizens, aren't close, and #!*%! immigration...

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Real Corona, Oct 7, 2011.

  1. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is there such a thread? If not, there should be one. And here's the latest entry:

     
  2. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  3. USSoccerNova

    USSoccerNova Member+

    Sep 28, 2005
    Can you cap tie in utero? Sign that boy/girl up for the u0s stat!
     
  4. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    Handwalla Bwana. Anybody know his status?
     
  5. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Sounders say he is a US citizen:

    Name: Handwalla Bwana
    Position: Midfielder
    Height: 5-9
    Weight: 145
    Born: June 25, 1999 in Mombasa, Kenya
    Hometown: Seattle, Washington
    Citizenship: United States / Kenya

    https://www.oursportscentral.com/se...handwalla-bwana-as-homegrown-player/n-5289816

    That could be a mistake, but that's the main thing we have to go on. He's been in the US since 2010 and refugees are supposed to get a Green Card after a year of being in the US. It's certainly feasible that he's a US citizen by now.
     
  6. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    bwana bump
     
  7. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    MNUFC just announced a green card for Abu Danladi.
     
  8. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Watch as the kid grows up and plays another sport...
     
  9. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I do wonder if there's a citizenship timeline on Keyrol Figueroa..................
    There are some kids at this level you can watch and think they have "it."
     
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  10. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, Maynor only came to the US in 2015 and I can't find a Green Card announcement. It's likely 5+ years away then.
     
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  11. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I can't either..........................
    This is one of those cases where even if it was 5 years from now, we'd be in with a shout. The kid is really young. He's only 11, but he plays like he's 15.
     
  12. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    Can someone explain how Diego Fagundez could never be eligible for the U.S. but Mario Fernandes was for Russia? Only because Fagundez played in a competitive youth match for Uruguay before getting citizenship?

    Fernandes never played an official youth competition for Brazil, but played in a senior team friendly before acquiring Russian citizenship.
     
  13. sakibomb523

    sakibomb523 Member+

    Oct 13, 2009
    Orange County
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You answered your own question....official competition. Friendlies don't count toward the "must've been a citizenship or eligible for a passport of other country" rule.
     
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  14. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    It looks like this guy played his freshman season at Yavapai as "Alex" this past fall, scored 28 goals, and his now scoring more for NPSL Little Rock Rangers, which is not a bad name for a team.
     
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  15. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    To put that JuCo goal-scoring total in perspective, Justin Meram scored 21 as a freshman at Yavapai and 30 as a sophomore. Alan Gordon scored 9 as a freshman and 29 as a sophomore. Former LA Galaxy player Mike Randolph scored 22 goals, total, in two seasons, albeit as a midfielder. Irving Garcia, who had a cup of coffee with the Red Bulls, scored 20 goals in two seasons at Yavapai. Joey Gjertsen, who was a USL MVP, scored some big CONCACAF Champions League goals and played in MLS, scored 10 in his lone season there.

    None of this means Cuadron is gonna play in MLS. Plenty of people who scored a lot of goals at Yavapai and elsewhere did little after leaving the JuCo ranks.

    But Yavapai is a pretty amazing college program - they've produced three World Cup players (all defenders and goalkeepers, hence they aren't mentioned above) - and produced a lot of pros and even more D-I players. And this kid had one of the best goal-scoring seasons that program's ever seen.

    Combine that with his gaudy HS numbers and him producing in the NPSL (9 goals in 10 regular season games) and maybe there is something here worth following.
     
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  16. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    A '95 of this name was recently in NYC's very competitive Cosmo League. Based on photographs, it's probably the same guy.

    http://elements.demosphere.com/74021/teams/84882697/84976450-84882756/85658515.html

    His Instagram suggests a number of opportunities/attempts at various levels of the "next level."

    https://www.instagram.com/idi.diallo/
     
  17. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
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  18. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure if Mohammed Kamara is a US citizen or not, looks like he was born in Liberia...








    https://www.atlantasilverbacksfc.com/mohammed-kamara/

    https://uclabruins.com/news/2018/2/12/ucla-mens-soccer-signs-seven-for-2018-class.aspx
     
  19. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Not that it really matters for the purposes of this rather quiet and always-interesting thread, but Kamara doesn't really seem like much of a case for us. Unless something's going on we don't know about, he appears to be a straightforward case of a guy from another country who came here for college. His path to citizenship as a pro player would seem to be pretty standard.
     
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  20. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    #870 Dave Marino-Nachison, Sep 7, 2018
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2018
    Koffi may be poised to sign in MLS:



    EDIT/ADD: He signed as a "homegrown" with NYRB. Listed as IC citizen only.

    https://www.newyorkredbulls.com/pos...s-sign-jean-christophe-koffi-homegrown-player
     
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  21. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
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  22. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #872 BostonRed, Oct 12, 2018
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2018
    Ignore all that I wrote previously...

    Maynor was in the UK for years, so he could easily have earned a UK passport.

    To go at 13, the kids would need British citizenship, which was reported in some random tweets.
     
  23. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    The last sentence of the tweet says: If he becomes good, we hope he opts to play for Honduras. I take that to imply he has another citizenship.
     
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  24. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    As BostonRed mentioned, he likely has British citizenship. Hence his ability to move to Britain at the age of 13.

    As the son of the most capped Honduras international in history, it was always most likely that he'd represent Honduras.

    We probably said the same thing about Tim Weah, though. Keyrol seems as American as apple pie in interviews, etc.
    https://www.fcdallas.com/post/2018/04/02/academy-father-son-keyrol-figueroa

    We only were keeping track of him because of his accomplishments at the early academy levels. He scored 28 goals in 28 games for the FCD academy last season, albeit at the u12 level. And that was only in official DA games. He racked up a ton in the tournaments that the FCD academy goes to. A very talented youngster.
     
  25. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    This thread has more or less died off, but it was kind of interesting, and I happened across a couple of stories about immigrant-heavy school programs that seemed worth posting somewhere.

    A school in KC:
    https://www.kansascity.com/sports/high-school/article237715814.html

    And outside Washington DC:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...de-washington-soccer-is-break-hectic-reality/

    In case it doesn't go without saying, I did not look into the immigration status of every player in these articles and am posting the links more for general interest.

    Also, the DC story is illustrated with a picture of a player wearing a Bethesda-Olney jersey, so clearly the school's players are not invisible. My sense is that the DC area is pretty carefully scouted by youth clubs, though I'm not an expert.
     
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