Juventus 2016/2017 Serie A Season Thread for April [R]

Discussion in 'Juventus' started by Falc, Mar 28, 2017.

  1. scirea6

    scirea6 Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
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    Disagree. Aside from Milan's dismantling of Barca in 1994, Capello seriously underachieved in Europe throughout his managerial career.

    We seriously under performed in Europe, given the talent of that squad. But the only way we could have actually won would be if we had had a manager who was better able to handle knockout competitions, which was a serious weakness in Capello's managerial repertoire.
     
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  2. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
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    Capello had his players burned out by late March and April. He rotated little and had good players rotting on the bench. Moggi pretty much took care of Capello's wish list and the team always came up short in the CL. The squad was getting old under him.
     
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  3. Italy-Azzurri-Fan

    Nov 15, 2014
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    Juventus FC
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    Capello is not really that good of a manager. He is way too serious, and really pushes his players a little over the top. I always thought of Capello more like a business man. He sometimes treats the players like machines, which is why we didn't do so well in Europe under him. If Lippi stayed as our coach however, we might have won a lot more UCL's.
     
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  4. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    Well, Lippi may be the best coach of his generation.

    Personally, I think he is up there with Rinus Michels as one of the greats of all time. Look at his coaching tree and he has won everywhere he has been.

    That doesn't mean Capello's teams were junk. Italy won the WC with the bulk of the team coming from that squad.

    I agree though that if Lippi had been in charge we would have done better in Europe, but then the Azzurri wouldn't have won the WC.
     
  5. Italy-Azzurri-Fan

    Nov 15, 2014
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    Juventus FC
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    Yup great point. Lippi is one of the best coaches in his generation. Although I also look at Jupp Heynckes very highly as well. I agree we probably wouldn't have won the WC if Lippi wasn't in charge. Yes Capello had some great players, and one of the best teams on paper actually. But if you remember many of those players in the WC were underperforming for their clubs under Capello the season before the 2006 world cup. Thats one of the main reasons why we definitely were not strong favorites coming into the tournament.
     
  6. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
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  7. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
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  8. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
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    Rest our main players please
     
  9. soccerr9

    soccerr9 Member+

    Jun 6, 2005
    There is a five day rest period before the next CL match. That is a pretty big gap. It looks like Allegri will field a strong line up to win the match and essentially win the league. It sets up the opportunity to rest players vs Torino given that it comes 3 days before the home leg vs Monaco.
     
  10. thinredline10

    thinredline10 Member+

    Juventus
    Apr 2, 2017
    Hopefully Rugani plays... its really time to evaluate him properly. It is very frustrating to watch him rot on the bench when he does so well on the field...

    Benatia needs to ******** off.. why cant he get injured.
     
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  11. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
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    Rugani is not playing due to a knock he picked up. He did not make the trip.

    No need to rest players. Monaco did that for the French Cup and got humiliated by PSG 5:0. It sends a bad message. Allegri has been rotating and players want to play. If an injury is going to happen, it will happen whether in a game or training.
     
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  12. soccerr9

    soccerr9 Member+

    Jun 6, 2005
    Rugani has been dealing with a slight injury. If Rugani lasts as long as Barzagli will, we will have 10-13 years worth of games in which to evaluate him.
     
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  13. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    It's like people ignore the squad list
     
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  14. thinredline10

    thinredline10 Member+

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    Apr 2, 2017
    firefox browser does not display images embedded on this website for some reason which is why I did not see the squad list.

    it just says
     
  15. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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  16. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    Mad Max Is All In.
     
  17. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
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    Then make yourself a more knowledgeable fan. Football Italia translates articles from Italian mediums. The official Juve site keeps tifosi up to date. People lose credibility here when they question roster decisions for players who are not on the roster.
     
  18. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
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    Italy
    exactly.. and it will keep the players sharp and in peak form.
     
  19. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
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    For the most part, Atalanta is not pressing high but in the middle third and clogging up the penalty area. They look to counter when they can after sucking us in.

    Cuadrado shows that he is no Mandzukic.
     
  20. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    Juventus FC
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    Juve having issues in the back. Conti scores right on half time for Atalanta to take the lead. 1-0

    The kid wants to join Juve, he didn't celebrate his goal.
     
  21. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
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    Khedira clearly taken out on that goal. Ref must have lost his whistle.
     
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  22. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
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    Everyone goes into the locker room pissed off. Let's see if we get the right reaction come second half.
     
  23. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    Juventus FC
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    Bonucci ties it up 1-1. Announcers are saying own goal by Juve product, Spinazzola.
     
  24. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
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    Spicoli did head the ball. He did not celebrate but if you read his lips, he clearly said "That was my skull! I'm so wasted!"
     
  25. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
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    Juventus FC
    The hand ball preceded the offside. That is two goals this ref has cost us.
     
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