Kashima Antlers 3-0 now. WTF Final score Kashima 3-0 At. Nacional AT Nacional hit the bar twice, they missed several chances and a japanese defender even saved the ball on the line. The Japanese almost converted all their chances, astonishing ! Well done.
Club America are better than both Mamelodi and Atletico Nacional. There's no shame for Jeonbuk to lose against them. They were just unlucky to meet Club America so early on in the tournament. Congrats to Kashima btw. They took their chances well in that match.
His transfer to Sevilla was a good try, but it didn't work out as hoped for both sides, but I think he'd find easily a mid- to lowtable club in Bundesliga again. The fun thing is that KBK was higher rated than Kiyo when he was at Cerezo if I remember correctly. Even Jurgen Klopp had shown interest. But Cardiff with the strange Asian owner was a f'cked up club and KBK's style didn't match with England anyway. At least he owned Man City ^^
It should have been only CL Champs in the CWC, Kashima stays home since they didn't win the 2016 ACL. But instead they are in the Final. That's an insult to you guys, IMO. It's like if Cardiff FC got a bye to the UEFA CL KO rounds, without having to qualify or play the group stage. Ridiculous.
Not sure about that. Atletico Nacional has been dominant in South America this season winning the Copa Libertadores and reaching the final of Copa Sudamericana. Also, Club America didn't look that impressive at all against Jeonbuk. Club America dominated the match in all departments apart from goals, and this happens. Anyway we'll see when Club America plays Atletico Nacional in the 3rd/4th playoffs. I don't follow this logic at all. Cardiff City? In any case, who cares? The NT equivalent is the Confederations Cup and the hosts participate in it as well. Plus in any competition the hosts don't have to qualify. Also, they showed that their standard is good enough by beating three continental champions. Kudos to them.
Exactly, it makes no sense at all just because you host the damn tournament, you should be in it too? Then what is the point of the CL tournaments? If the host (or in this case the country who paid FIFA handsomely) is qualified to be in CWC. When they tried to qualify and failed in the end.
The same logic applies to WC. The country who pays (or bribes ) the FIFA committee becomes the host country ultimately gets the free ride.
*facepalm* You honestly can't tell the difference between this and continental Champions Leagues? CWC takes place in one country, and given that it the host nation has take the burden of matchday expenses, it's a perk they get in return. It happens in basically all the cups that takes place in a host nation. Also, try not to make up facts when trying to make a point. Japan is hosting 2015 and 2016 CWC because no other nations bid to host it.
How delusional are you? How many fans do you think travels to watch CWC? There is a reason why it got scrapped after its first edition until countries like Japan, UAE, and Morocco decided to host them. http://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/news...est-in-hosting-fifa-competitions-2336227.html http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...Cup-report-criticism/articleshow/45136834.cms Only Japan and India were interested in hosting the tournament, and India pulled out as they did not have the necessary infrastructure.
Most people can't afford to go to Japan (or wherever the tournament is being hosted) and watch their team play in the CWC. You need a lot of money, wich you won't spend for a tournament that gather rather low interest.
Dax, any word on the $ lost during the tournament or did Alibaba's sponsorship funnel enough money to allow tournament organizers to break even?
really no clue, sorry. I don't even know if this kind of thing goes into JFA's balance sheet or the prefecture, etc.
except jeonbuk actually won the champions league, a continental competition. kashima won the local domestic league. i dont really care much for either team but what exactly makes jeonbuks participation worse sense?
With all games being single-elimination in Wales. The UCL Final is in Cardiff this year. The NT equivalent is NOT the Conf Cup, the NT equivalent is the World Cup. That's why both tournaments are called "world cup". The Conf Cup is basically an exhibition tournament, not that serious. Both the Club and NT World Cups are World Championships. You can't compare the CWC to other tourneys. The CWC is at a neutral venue because it is too difficult to have the CL Champs face each other in home and away ties. The host does not belong unless they also win their CL.
The answer is contained in the post you quoted, unless you don't consider match fixing being a big deal.
So there is no South American champion given that there is no CONMEBOL tournament called Champions League? Continental champions (+WC Champion) and host nation/Continental club champions and host nations' club champion... it might be me, but it does seem a tad similar. The CWC is generally considered an exhibition tournament too.
the 'qualifiers' for this tournament is the champions league. all other teams have won the continental title. remind me what kashima did in the qualifiers? i really dont care either way but your logic is seriously flawed. if there was a reason to take away jeonbuks title afc would have done so. and that would be the only way jeonbuk wouldnt be allowed to participate in this tournament. to argue jeonbuk has less place in this tournament than kashima is illogical
There's no logic behind it, we shouldn't dispute Kashima's presence since it's within the rules of the tournament. But since we want to talk about we think should be done or not, I think it's worse having a team convicted in a match fixing affair. In 1994, Marseille didn't play the Intercontinental Cup and that was the right way to go about it.
What the hell is wrong with you, there is a S.A. champion. That's where the similarity ends. The meaning of the trophies are not similar. By whom