Italy vs Portugal Friendly 16th June in Geneva

In my opinion there have only been two great Portuguese players whom I saw in person and had the pleasure of meeting, Antonio Siomes and Eusebio...

 

@falvo

what about figo? rui costa?

 

Rui Costa & Figo were ok. I liked Rui Costa when he was at Fiorentina. I only really saw Figo at the end when he went to Inter. Nothing like Simoes and Eusebio though.

 

Rui Costa was class on and off the field. I call him the anti Ronaldo

 

He also did good at Milan until Kaka out shined him....

 

You did nothing. This is when superiority complex gets the best of you when you speak in the first person about accomplishments you had no responsibility whatsoever. Your sense of proud is rightfully yours, but argumentation wise when we're talking about the present, then stick to the present?
How does resorting to "4 stars bro" and dwell to the past is constructive in any way?
It makes you look like a neanderthal because you have nothing else better to say. At least use it in the right context when people are comparing achievements or talking about prestige. If you're struggling with this, then please PM me, I can make a few things in PS and then put it all together in Powerpoint so that you understand.

I was in my university dorms hanging out this afternoon with some erasmus student and eventually remembered this clown spectacle going on here. I talked to a couple of guys from Sicily who chuckled about a few of those comments and one of them proceeded to trash his canadian cousins. I know this is the internet but based on several comments in here it seems to happen quite often in real life there. It's sorta of amusing, but serious, grow up. It's very sad to see so much nonsensical trashing from wannabe italians against people from a country that like Serie A the most, right after the Premier League.

I pity the few reasonable italian users here that have to debate with these baboons.

 

4 stars bro

 

Looking past this friendly the U21s of Portugal and Italy face off in a couple of days, should be a good one, this is one of Portugal's best U21 teams in years.

Not sure where this argument of Italy vs Portugal began perhaps on College St in TO? Both countries have been similar since 2000, Italy have had more success but Portugal have had their near misses as well. At this point it's close between the two sides, Italy are stronger and deeper as you'd expect. As for a hypothetical starting XI:

GK: Adv Italy
Def: Adv Italy, though despite his struggles Contreao is better than any of our full backs.
Mid: Slight edge to Portugal. In the middle we're about even and maybe slight edge to Italy with Pirlo, Verratti, DDR slight edge over Joao, Danny, Tiago. But Italy simply don't have anyone near Ronaldo's caliber
Fwd: Eventhough this isn't the best times for Italian forwards, Portugal never have any good strikers. Wingers yes plenty of them but no strikers.

 

I just did a test draw for the 2018 World Cup Qualifications and this is how it came out:

Group A: Portugal, Switzerland, Northern Ireland, Bulgaria, Belarus, Luxembourg

Group B: Germany, Slovakia, Poland, Norway, Macedonia, Andorra

Group C: England, Czech Republic, Serbia, Faroe Islands, Latvia, Georgia

Group D: Belgium, Denmark, Greece, Montenegro, Finland, San Marino

Group E: Spain, France, Ukraine, Slovenia, Cyprus, Liechtenstein

Group F: Romania, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Hungary, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan

Group G: Netherlands, ITALY, Scotland, Estonia, Lithuania, Malta

Group H: Croatia, Austria, Albania, Republic of Ireland, Moldova

Group I: Wales, Iceland, Sweden, Israel, Armenia

I'd take this draw if I had a choice. Its not the easiest group in the world, but we need some tough matches, because it hurts us only in the end if our qualification group is too easy. Not too hard either. A declining Netherlands, and Scotland shouldn't be too hard, but they will put up good fights. There are some other teams that might hate it, but all I care about is ours. Please I hope this draw is the real draw, although its probably not going to be of course. How do all of you like this draw?

 

Denmark did better than Italy in the qualifiers and actually also beat Yugoslavia in Belgrade, but Denmark still came in second in the group because a very strong Yugoslavia won all the rest of their games .... had Denmark been in the group with the Soviet Union, I'm quite sure they would still have made it to the finals, considering that the Soviet Union (CIS) lost 3-0 to Scotland and finished dead last at the Euro-92 finals.

 

Spoken like someone who's people have never accomplished anything in the sporting world. Azzurri fans live in the past, present, and future because it's all good.

 

Only the Portugese who regard coming close to first place a significant achievement would regard that as a compliment.

 

or you could argue had denmark been in Italy's 92 qualifying group you would have had a strong soviet team (runners up euro 88 ) to face plus 2 good teams in Norway and Hungary ( which were better teams back then ) in total facing 3 difficult sides instead of your group which just had one real threat really in Yugoslavia. Austria/Northern Ireland/ and especially the Faroe Islands were weak back then much like today. the only true weak team Italy faced in their group was Cyprus so if we are playing "what ifs" you might have finished in the same position again in 2nd.

also if we are playing "what if's" how the soviet union played in the final tournament has no bearing on how they actually played previously in qualifying so using their 3-0 defeat and how they placed in euro 92 as a measuring stick to determine Denmark would still have qualified being in the same qualifying group is sophomoric at best

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_1992_qualifying

 

also where are all these other fans coming from? not enough action in their respective forums so they are lurking here to jump on posts they don't agree with

wasn't a certain Italian member here flamed for going into other boards and doing the same.....but it's ok when the shoe is on the other foot?

 

Sporting accomplished quite a lot!

Primeira Liga: 18
1940–41, 1943–44, 1946–47, 1947–48, 1948–49, 1950–51, 1951–52, 1952–53, 1953–54, 1957–58, 1961–62, 1965–66, 1969–70, 1973–74, 1979–80, 1981–82, 1999–2000, 2001–02

Portuguese Cup: 16
1940–41, 1944–45, 1945–46, 1947–48, 1953–54, 1962–63, 1970–71, 1972–73, 1973–74, 1977–78, 1981–82, 1994–95, 2001-02, 2006–07, 2007–08, 2014–15

Portuguese SuperCup: 7
1982, 1987, 1995, 2000, 2002, 2007, 2008

Championship of Portugal: 4 1922–23, 1933–34, 1935–36, 1937–38

International competitions European Cup Winners' Cup: 1 1963–64

 

yeah prandelli said the same thing after failing to be seeded for the 2014 WC groups and look at how that ended up....those tough matches didn't end up "helping us" at all for the next round....we were out in the group phase

being seeded sometimes can mean all the difference between getting through and not getting through....especially for Italy historically

 

And you lost to portugal and are behind Croatia what does that make you? You lost to portugal who didn't even have ronaldo who was coming off three consecutive hat tricks you should be thankful he wasn't there or you would have lost 4-0

Ronaldo 3 stars bro 4 golden shoes call me when one of your boys can say the same

3 ballon dor bro!!!!

 

I predict no Italian will ever be as good as cr7

I also predict lotto 649 numbers for June 3 2023.

14 56 43 17 19 9 bonus 14

 

There have historically, been many better than him and they all won World Cups or were runner-ups..... Something that your precious CR7 will probably never even get close to.

 

seriously get the F&&&CCCKKKK OUTTA HERE ALREADY......these f&ckin kids from toronto and their pseudo Italy-Portugal rivalry...take that shit back to the bars of toronto...for f7cks sake get outta here already with this shit