italian teams vs epl opponents [R]

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  1. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    Van der sar is expendable. Foster will take his place soon enough.

    man utd have won the Champions league and World cup championship with this core of players.
    Proof that a team with a homegrown base can succeed .
    Thats all I need to say.

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  2. v00d00daddy

    v00d00daddy Member

    May 22, 2007
    Toronto

    Nice comment. I'd rather you take a look at the make up of your precious teams and then refute what I've said.

    The stereotypes are great too. Much appreciated.
     
  3. three lions

    three lions Member

    Apr 2, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    6 out of 11... Hmm?? Unless my math has dropped significantly, that's over 50 percent. Yeah, I guess he was right..No English players represented whatsoever.
     
  4. three lions

    three lions Member

    Apr 2, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Game, set, and match..
     
  5. v00d00daddy

    v00d00daddy Member

    May 22, 2007
    Toronto
    Okay....I think that's it.

    You guys can refuse to look at the make up of your clubs and keep leaning on the lineup of Man U last year. If that makes you feel better, fine.

    I'm just curious, why aren't you defending the makeup Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea...the other 75% of the "English dominance"?
     
  6. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    ahhh so you have already disregarded manchesters homegrown core of talent I see!
    In consecutive posts!!!

    How can a team with 6 english starters have nothing to do with england ??
    hmmmm
    Thats just nonsense .
     
  7. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    I havent seen such a pedantic argument style since Bocafan/Rangers00.
    Holy f'ck!!
    I bet you live for these arguments.
    Someone check this guys IP addy.
     
  8. three lions

    three lions Member

    Apr 2, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    It's definately borderline short bus..
     
  9. v00d00daddy

    v00d00daddy Member

    May 22, 2007
    Toronto
    You're right. Man U is very much an English team.

    Here's another 3 questions for you and if you don't answer it I think I will consider our conversation over.

    I'll use your phrasing just so there's no confusion:

    How can a team with 3 English starters (Chelsea) have anything to do with england ??

    How can a team with 0 English starters (Arsenal) have anything to do with england ??

    How can a team with 1 English starter (Liverpool) have anything to do with england ??
     
  10. v00d00daddy

    v00d00daddy Member

    May 22, 2007
    Toronto

    Another hilarious comment coming from somebody who has contributed absolutely nothing concrete to this discussion.

    So let's tally it up:

    -I'm retarded
    -I like Ice fishing and curling

    and you've said absolutely nothing except "look at the lineups in last years final"......

    Nice contribution.
     
  11. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    and they are the team that have had all the success pretty much.
    Wouldnt you agree?
    The elite squad..
    Compared to "Italys best" ,Inter Milan.

    Ahh chelsea!!!!!!
    Their core is Terry ,lampard ,Joe Cole and Drogba
    Their key performers are homegrown aside from Drogba .
    Cole is their playmaker
    Lampard is their midfield anchor
    Terry the heart of the defence
    And they have some upcoming under 21's who will be involved very soon like mancienne. Could be better ,but still you cant ignore the key talent.


    walcott is now a starter. They have a good crop of young players coming up who will crack the team in time for any of Blatters 6-5 rulings.
    They are the weakest of the pack anyway.

    Gerrard and Carragher are their only domestic starters ,but arguably their core players along with torres and mascherano.
    The players who are first on the team sheet.


    Its not ideal !! but look at italy where the only team stocked with italians truely capable of winning is Milan.
    And in Spain with Barca and Madrid. Or germany with Bayern and Werder.
     
  12. three lions

    three lions Member

    Apr 2, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Sorry, I thought I should keep it simple for you.. 6 out of 11 english players to the champions, and 4 out of 11 to the runners up. That's a grand total of 10 out of 22, quite a bit of English representation for someone claiming that the English personnel have nothing to do with the present dominance. I can't be bothered anymore with this little banter. It reeks of sour grapes..
     
  13. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
  14. v00d00daddy

    v00d00daddy Member

    May 22, 2007
    Toronto

    Yes...last year was a good showing for those teams and England was well represented. Unfortunately it's not the same this year and won't be for the future.

    Also, it's not sour grapes because the team I support in Italy could not even qualify for Champions last year and were recently booted from the UEFA cup so that's where all my sour grapes go these days.

    I just don't like it when people take jabs at Italian football and talk about "English Dominance".

    Man U dominance....definitely....English dominance...hardly. That's all.
     
  15. v00d00daddy

    v00d00daddy Member

    May 22, 2007
    Toronto
    Also...you still haven't made any mention of Liverpool and Arsenal....

    oh...and the managers of each of your teams

    oh...and the owners of each of those teams....

    But don't worry. I got it....

    IN LAST YEARS CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FINAL ENGLAND WAS VERY WELL REPRESENTED WITH NO LESS THAN 10 ENGLISHMEN TAKING THE FIELD.

    This year has already been a different story and will continue to be but don't worry. You're still the best.:)
     
  16. Gandalf The Red

    Gandalf The Red BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Sep 23, 2006
    voodoo is getting owned:cool:
     
  17. rizzuto123

    rizzuto123 Member

    May 3, 2006
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
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    Damn it your right.
     
  18. rizzuto123

    rizzuto123 Member

    May 3, 2006
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
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    Your spot on again. Damn your good
     
  19. rizzuto123

    rizzuto123 Member

    May 3, 2006
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    So Inter can't win Champions League with all Foreigns on there team either, whats your point? yet Milan won theres with 7 Italians starting.
     
  20. cromagnum

    cromagnum Member+

    Aug 13, 2007

    how does it feel to have an italian cleaning up the english national team?:eek::)
     
  21. rizzuto123

    rizzuto123 Member

    May 3, 2006
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I think Aston Villa has and to see Aston Villa in Champions League next season is more of a victory English Football then seeing Arsenal in CL.
     
  22. Gandalf The Red

    Gandalf The Red BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Sep 23, 2006

    He may be Italian but he is OUR italian mkay funboy!

    and I think you will find Capello's has english ancestors;)
     
  23. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    It's not like Jose built this Inter team though. The jury is still out on Mourinho in Italy.
     
  24. BruceNa

    BruceNa New Member

    Mar 7, 2009
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    I'm just glad the ManU did make it because I can stand Jose. Would be fun to see ManU going against Munich. :)
     

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