Is winning everything?

Discussion in 'BigSoccer Polls' started by Huss, May 17, 2004.

  1. Huss

    Huss Administrator
    Staff Member

    Aug 1, 1995
    New York, NY
    New York Red Bulls
    Is winning everything?
  2. cosmojado

    cosmojado Member

    Oct 18, 2002
    in sin
    quoth the pointy ball coach..............winning isn't everything, its the only thing
  3. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    AFC Ajax
    it's the initial thing... but it can certainly be put into persective from time to time
  4. KDdidit

    KDdidit Member

    Apr 15, 2001
    The Brookfield Zoo
    I'd prefer draws.
  5. srd....

    srd.... Member

    Apr 20, 2004
    Cork City.
    guaranteed it is.....who wants to a loser???
  6. srd....

    srd.... Member

    Apr 20, 2004
    Cork City.
    ahem......that should have been "to be a loser" :D
  7. mellon002

    mellon002 Member

    Jan 24, 2003
    Towson, MD
    It's not that simple. At the level of a professional league, it's everything. Almost anything below that, it's fun.
  8. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Winning makes you a winner, and losing makes you a loser. It just depends which one you would rather be.

    PS, Lombardi said it best.
  9. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Depends on your definition of winning I suppose. Should the South Korean team be regarded as losers because they only made the world cup semi final?

    I'd say anyone who exceeds expectations can consider it a job well done, even if they didn't win the ultimate prize. Portsmouth, for example, were tipped by nearly everyone to be relegated by christmas. Is their, in the end, quite comfortable survival something to be praised, or should they be condemned as rubbish for being so far behind Arsenal in the title race?
  10. MIGkiller

    MIGkiller Member

    May 9, 2003
    Rio de Janeiro
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    "Yes, it sure is. :( "

    The Brazil 1982 players
  11. The Double

    The Double Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 11, 2002

    As for soccer personalities, Blanchflower said it best.
  12. AFCA

    AFCA Member

    Jul 16, 2002
    X X X rated
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    From a supporters point of view... yes and no. Yes, because every little bit of you is all shaky and nervous because you want your boys to win (or tie at least in certain cases)... No, because of what RichardL said. And there can be glory in defeat as well.

    Jun 6, 2004
    Yes and No

    es because you want to see trophies, but there are always other success like a larg fan base or an opening of a new stadium etc, or your team playing decent football.
  14. SoccerFan8270

    SoccerFan8270 New Member

    Oct 7, 2003
    Both yes and no. Winning can prove to the world that you are a strong team and that you are successful at the game. However, you can still lose a match or end in a draw but still prove to the world that you are a strong team.
  15. Mr Martin

    Mr Martin Member+

    Jun 12, 2002
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Results from Internet Collections: 20th Century Quotations:

    "Winning is not a sometime thing; its an all the time thing. You don't win once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all the time. Winning is a habit."
    Vince Lombardi (1913 - 1970)

    Results from Contributed Quotations:

    "The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur."
    Vince Lombardi (1913 - 1970)

    "The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but a lack of will."
    -- Vincent Thomas "Vince" Lombardi (1913-70), American football coach, led Green Bay Packers to 6 conference titles

    "Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."
    -- Vincent Thomas "Vince" Lombardi (1913-70), American football coach, led Green Bay Packers to 6 conference titles

    From these quotes you may notice that oft-quoted Coach Lombardi had a much deeper understanding of what it meant to "win" than simply what appears on the scoreboard. It was all about willpower, effort, striving, and doing things right.
  16. DamonEsquire

    DamonEsquire BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 16, 2002
    Leeds United AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you learn, then win isn't far off. Weather admiration of triple jump in checkers or 35 yard shot in soccer. Heck even attendees win of anything. I just don't want blatter cheeks all the time.
  17. Auxodium

    Auxodium New Member

    Apr 11, 2003
    Perth, Australia
    well i say it is 90% of a game i suppose, 5% is the tactics and the last 5% is they performance in which they played in :)

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