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Discussion in 'Iran' started by Team Melli forever, Dec 25, 2010.
Thanks. With pfdc down I was looking for the goals. Anyone know what the Iranian line up was?
Really looking forward to Saturdays game.
Sidenote: How do you say "Go Iran!" or something to that effect, in Farsi?
Iran's main football chants is "Iran chi karesh mikone? soorakh soorakhesh mikone" which somewhat means "What will Iran do to them? She will destroy them". Usually half the stadium screams the question and the other half gives the answer.
Another one is "Hamleh hamleh teame Iran, gol bezan gol bezan yalla ghahreman" which means "Iran, attack, attack, score a goal, score a goal, come on champion"
Another common chant is screaming "IRAN" after some guy with a horn blows in a certain repeated fashion.
I don't think there's anything like "Go Iran" in Farsi
We have GOOOO RED DEVILS GOOOO RED DEVILS haha, what teammelliforever wrote is right
What about the very intellectual chant of "doodooroo doodoo, IRAN!"
And the second part probably better translates to "She/it will punch holes in them" - which has connotations of destroying as well as the imagery of scoring a number of goals. It's akin to a double play on the phrase.
Iran Coach Calls for Politics-free Soccer
By James M. Dorsey
For more like this, please visit The Turbulent World of Middle East Soccer blog
Iranian national soccer team coach Afshin Ghotbi issued a stark challenge on the eve of Iran’s Asia Cup quarterfinal match this weekend against South Korea, calling for the beautiful game to be separated from politics.
Ghotbi, whose appointment as coach was reportedly authorized by conservative, soccer-carzy Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad, cloaked his tall order in an appeal to Iranian players as they prepared for a game that has a symbolic value that goes far beyond the Asian tournament in Qatar.
"The national team belongs to the people and from the head coach and all the way to the ball boy, nobody should use it as a vehicle to express their political views,"Ghotbi, who is heading after Qatar to Japan to coach Shimizu S-Pulse told the Associated Press.
Iran two years ago lost its last qualifier against South Korea in a match that was mired by some Iranian players entering the pitch with green wristbands in support of mass protests against the disputed re-election of Ahmedinejad and Iranian fans shouting slogans against their government during the match in Seoul.
While Ghotbi, an Iranian who grew up in the United States, issued his appeal to his players, his call applies to soccer as an institution and not just in Iran but across the Middle East and North Africa. Politics permeates the game in Iran and elsewhere in the region at all levels. Iranian clubs like those in for example Egypt are government controlled, more often than not owned by state-run companies. Representatives of Iran’s Ministry of Youth and Sports sit on club boards while the Revolutionary Guards over the past two years have successfully increased their influence on the game.
Government officials fear the power of soccer in creating alternative public spaces where Iranians can vent pent-up anger and frustration with their leaders. That concern has been reinforced by past support for opposition figures by soccer personalities and institutions, including the managing board of Zob Ahan Football Club and a former coach of Persepolis FC, Asia’s most popular club.
Iranian soccer analysts believe that matches in the Tehran derby between Persepolis and
FC Taj have ended in draws over the last six years as a result of government match fixing. The analysts say the fixing is designed to prevent the often violent derby from escalating into anti-government protests. Iran’s successful World Cup qualifiers in 1997 and 2005 resulted in massive celebrations in the streets of Tehran, marked by public intoxication, dancing, and women removing their hijabs; the elimination of Iran from the 2001 World Cup qualifiers led to rioting.
Tractor Sazi FC, the storied club in Tabriz, the capital of Iranian Azerbaijan, which is owned by Iran Tractor Manufacturing Co. (ITMCO), has become a flashpoint of the region’s identity politics. “Wherever Tractor goes, fans of the opposing club chant insulting slogans. They imitate the sound of donkeys, because Azerbaijanis are historically derided as stupid and stubborn. I remember incidents going back to the time that I was a teenager,” says a long-standing observer of Iranian soccer.
A 2009 cable from the US embassy in Tehran disclosed by Wikileaks describes how Ahmedinejad has sought with limited success to associate himself with Iran’s national team in a bid to polish his tarnished image and curry popular favour. The Iranian president went as far as in 2006 lifting the ban on women watching soccer matches in Iranian stadia, but in a rare public disagreement was overruled by Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei.
The Iranian leader has been hands-on in the management of the Iranian team. The US cable reports that he pressured the Iranian football federation to lift its 2008 suspension of star Ali Karimi so that he could play in 2010 World Cup qualifiers, engineered the 2009 firing of Ali Daei as coach, ensured that Daei’s successor Mohamed Mayeli-Kohan lasted all of two weeks in the job and ultimately was succeeded by Ghotbi.
Ahmedinejad has justified his interference telling Iranian journalists that “unfortunately, this sport has been afflicted with some very bad issues. I must intervene personally to push aside these destructive issues.”
Btw, some Iranian have been hugely pissed off by Hasebe's alleged statement about Iran, but note that this is likely to be a fake.
Hasebe never said that, it was published as "dirty" on a Korean news source.
He just said "Both Iran & Korea are good teams whoever we face". Then some stuff about good mood after the Qatar win etc etc. No "dirty" anywhere.
Its on persianfootball.com but it was something lost in translation. Hasebe as a personality isn't insulting, and isn't even that sort of outspoken type of player he wouldn't have said that.
You guys don't play dirty like arab teams but this was a dirty game with all the grass rolling and shirtpulling.
Iran had no business even keeping it close against a better Korea team but you guys held in there the entire game. Good job.
Please tell me you didn't just said that Iran was playing dirty and Korea team didn't display anything shameful? I give you the benefit of the doubt that you meant both teams. In that case yes some of the stuff was over the top?
One advice I have for your coach is to never smack an opponent's player in the back he will never/ever get away with it in a WC game.
dont take this guy seriously. he is bitter at being inferior. just go see his posts on youtube on Iran vs korea clips.
they played well, considering they really lack the talent
let's face it... iran didnt even make it to the world cup, got knocked out of the asian cup, no real big talents coming up...
but they didnt let korea score for a long time
good job, guys
it was a real good warm up for us
Love it when you guys get so humble
we should play again though
but i dont think korea should bring the A-team like we did today
it was a bit unfair
on the other hand, our women team's getting pretty good now
Bad luck Iranian, i'm sure Iran will bounce back again in future International tournaments.
1. We have talent and talents coming up
2. It wasn't a warm up game because it went down to the wire
3. Since you like to constantly point out other teams' miseries I'd like to remind you that despite your win today you're still an Asian team pretty much on the same level as any other top Asian team including us. You still get raped by teams like Argentina at the World Cup and never make it past the round of 16th if you're even lucky enough to get there.
Don't feed him. He is baiting.
Do the mods have the power to prevent these madar jendehaye jakesh from posting in our forum? Koskesh madar ghahbe moratab az Iran bad mige va be ma fosh mide.
come on, guys
this is just a friendly conversation
i saw bunch of you guys posting in korean section before the match, why not talk about this after the match?
let's just have a friendly conversation
Kiram too dahanet koskesh
Because you're a racist loser who constantly make border-line racist and provocative comments. I've seen you post in other forums, normally I just ignore your bullsh!t rants but I don't appreciate you taking your garbage to our forum, now GTFO because we both know you're not after a "friendly" conversation.
lol shoma khodesho aziat nakon (lahje torki). Bezar hal konan, in ham ahmagh daran ma am ahmaghamun kam nist in dorovar. We lost we move on there is always another Asian game, WCQ, WC, etc... We used to be laughing stock in many sports in Asia now we finish forth in Asian games so we can only get better from here. At least since we don't have propel investment, management or youth program we are far from our possible peak. Other teams in Asia who have exhausted these options and have reached to higher levels should be worried.
now we won, and you guys obviously lost
what do you guys need to do better the next time, you think?