Interesting Best XI

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by Excape Goat, Aug 30, 2005.

  1. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz
    Let's form a Best-of team out of the last 11 CL winners (1994/95-2004/05). From each winning team, one player can be selected. Here are my selections (only players that played in the final, thus no Roy Keane):


    -------------Shevchenko (Milan 03)--------del Piero (Juve 96)

    ---Zidane (Real 02)--Redondo (Real 98)--Gerrard (LFC 05)--Beckham (ManU 99)

    --R.Carlos (Real 00)--Rijkaard (Ajax 95)--Sammer (BVB 97)--Ferreira (Porto 04)

    ------------------------------Kahn (Bayern 01)
     
  2. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz
    OK, that was fun, here's the best of for the years 1983/84 to 1993/94.


    ---------------Futre (Porto 87)-----------van Basten (Milan 89)

    --M.Laudrup (CFB 92)--Platini (Juve 85)--Savicevic (RS 91)--Lerby (PSV 88)

    --Maldini (Milan 90)--Desailly (OM 93)--Baresi (Milan 94)--Neal (LFC 84)

    ---------------------------Ducadam (Steaua 86)
     
  3. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz
    Can't resist, here's my selection for the years 1972/73 to 1982/83:



    ------Dalglish (LFC 78)------Müller (Bayern 76)------Keegan (LFC 77)

    -----Francis (NF 79)--------Magath (HSV 83)--------Hoeness (Bayern 74)

    --Krol (Ajax 73)--Hansen (LFC 81)--Beckenbauer (Bayern 75)--Anderson (NF 80)

    ----------------------------Spink (Villa 82)


    This was definitely the least exciting period so far....
     
  4. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz
    Last but not least ... the years 1961/62 to 1971/72:


    -----------Eusebio (Benfica 62)---------------Amancio (Real 66)

    --Mazzola (Inter 64)--Cruyff (Ajax 71)--Charlton (ManU 68)--Trapattoni (Milan 63)

    --Schnellinger (Milan 69)--Israel (FR 70)--Hulshoff (Ajax 72)--Gemmell (Celtic 67)

    ------------------------------Sarti (Inter 65)
     
  5. LordR

    LordR Member

    Jul 12, 2002
    Germany
    Best players whose zodiac is the cancer (22.6-22.7):



    Code:
                     v.Nistelrooy     Raúl                     
                                                               
                                                               
                                                               
                                                               
               Zidane                         Giuly            
                                                               
                                                               
                      Zé Roberto       Vieira                  
                                                               
                                                               
    Maldini           Stam              Zebina         Belletti
                                                               
                              Barthez                          
    
    
     
  6. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz
    A very good selection. But you mean Krol not Kohl, don't you?

    Here's my Best XI for World Cup final losers (I will include the 1950 Brazil vs. Uruguay game in this, although it wasn't a final technically):

    -----------------Riva (1970)------------------R.Baggio (1994)

    -----Sarosi (1938)----Zizinho (1950)----Hidegkuti (1954)---Hamrin (1958)

    --Schnellinger (1966)---Krol (1978)---Förster (1982 & 86)---Burgnich (1970)

    -----------------------------Planicka (1934)


    I left out Puskas and Cruyff because I didn't want to dublicate any player already mentioned. Normally they would of course have made this Best XI.
     
  7. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Why are Zizinho and Hidegkuti in the midfield? In a way, I can understand Hidegkuti's place there because the withdrawn centre-forward is similar to the modern attacking midfielder but Zizinho was a inside-right and I don't know why he has been moved further back.
     
  8. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Now we are talking! That's a quality striking partnership.

    Out of all the CL winners XI's, the 1983/84 to 1993/94 is my favourite. So many players that I like.

    I agree on that one. You're had to put in some Nottingham Forest players. I think SirManchester would disagree because there are quite a few Germans.
     
  9. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Hong Kong
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Best XI for Olympic 1996..... based on their career performance, not . I tried to drop all overage players. I selected Zanetti who was probably overage player, but young enough to be on this team.

    GK Dida
    RB Zanetti
    CB Nesta
    CB Cannavaro
    LB Roberto Carlos
    LM Wiltord
    CM Makelele
    CM Juninho
    RM Pires
    FW Raul
    FW Ronaldinho -- now better known as Ronaldo

    Bench
    Ayala
    Crespo.
    Morientes
    Kanu
    Ortega
     
  10. minorthreat

    minorthreat Member

    Jan 1, 2001
    NYC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Here's a toughie: an all-time Liga Primera Best XI without any players from Real Madrid or Barcelona. My gut feeling is that this is going to involve a lot of Basques.

    FW: Telmo Zarra (Athletic Bilbao)
    FW: Juan Arza (Sevilla)
    CM: Diego Simeone (Atlético Madrid)
    CB: Andoni Goikoetxea (Athletic Bilbao)
    CB: Jose Luis Caminero (Atlético Madrid)
    GK: Luis Arconada (Real Sociedad)

    I'm going to need help on this one.
     
  11. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Hong Kong
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Best XI for Olympic medalists since 1984 when it became a professional tournament.

    -- Based on career performance

    GK: Dida(Bronze 1996)
    RB: Zanetti(Silver 1996)
    CB: Ayala(Silver 1996, Gold 2004)
    CB: Sensini(Silver 1996) or Puyol (Silver 2000)
    LB: Roberto Carlos(Bronze 1996)
    RM: Hassler (Bronze 1988)
    DM: Dunga(Silver 1984)
    CM: Stojkovic(Bronze 1984)
    LM: Luis Enrique(Gold 1992)
    FW: Romario(Silver 1988)
    FW: Ronaldo(Bronze 1996)



    Klinsmann(Bronze 1988)
    Beberto(Silver 1988, Bronze 1996)
    Taffarel(Silver 1988)
    Jorginho(Silver 1988)
    Guardiola(Gold 1992)
    Okocha (Gold 1996)
    Kanu(Gold 1996)
    Terez(Gold 2004)
    Ortega(Silver 1996)
    Simeone(Silvre 1996)
    Crespo(Silver 1996)
    Juninho(Bronze 1996)
    Ivan Zamorano(Bronze 2000)
    Kameni(Gold 2000)
    Etoo(Gold 2000)
    Lauren(Gold 2000)
    Puyol(Silver 2000)
     
  12. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Hong Kong
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Best XI for players who played in all three Final of the WC Finals, the European Championship and the European Cup/CL.

    GK Zoff/Maier
    RB Lilian Thuram
    CB Facchetti
    CB Beckenbauer
    LB Brehme
    RW K.H.Rummenigge
    DM Marcel Desailly
    AM Zidane
    LM Breitner
    FW Gerd Muller
    FW Hoeness
     
  13. Metal Earth

    Metal Earth New Member

    Sep 19, 2005

    Uhm Van Basten who missed against Denmark at EC 92? ;)

    Edit: I saw that someone else already mentioned it.
     
  14. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    good job... just being a bit picky, but Desailly should be at CB and Beckenbauer at DM no?
     
  15. Borruma

    Borruma Member

    Jul 28, 2004
    Dublin
    A couple which haven't been done:

    An all-time English league XI based on players who've never won the league. (Actually you could do that with any league)

    An all-time XI of players who never played in a major tournament final since 1960 (Major tournament = Cl\European cup, WC and European championship)

    All-time XI of players who played at only one club.

    Greatest XI from nations who have never won a major international trophy.
     
  16. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    How about Pichichi? He is a forward that played for Bilbao early in their history and the Spanish leading goalscoring award is named after him. I'm not sure on his real name.

    You could put in Juan Senor, played in the 1980s for Real Zaragoza.

    Was Julen Guerrero any good? I don't know too much about him.
     
  17. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I've created an XI with player's who were UEFA Cup winners in the 1990s.

    GK ------------------- Kahn (Bayern 96)

    SW -----------------Matthaeus (Inter 91 and Bayern 96)

    DF Bergomi (Inter 91 and 94) ----- Cannavaro (Parma 99) ------ Brehme (Inter 91)

    MD Winter (Ajax 92 and Inter 98)--------- D Baggio (Parma 95 and 99) ----Van't Schip (Ajax 92)

    MD ---------------------R Baggio (Juve 93)

    FW Wilmots (Schalke 97) ------ Klinsmann (Inter 91 and Bayern 96)




    Here's an XI the South Americans that have played in the Serie A:

    GK ------------- Dida

    SW ----------- Edinho

    DF Cafu -----Montero ----- Aldair

    DM Dunga --------- Alemao

    AM Francescoli ------Maradona

    ST Batistuta ------- Ronaldo
     
  18. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Hong Kong
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I have been trying to do a best XI for the loser in the family. It will be a team of players who have a playing family member and are considered the weaker of the two. I came up with Pele's son as the keeper. I had Edwin Koeman, Jordhi Cruyff, Michael Rummenggie and Hugo Maradona. I am unsure about the van de Kerkhofs
     
  19. Bertje

    Bertje New Member

    Nov 10, 2004
    Leiden
    Ronald de Boer(though he was my favorite). Willy was considered the weaker link by most.
     
  20. Bertje

    Bertje New Member

    Nov 10, 2004
    Leiden
    Where is Bergkamp?
     
  21. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz
    Great suggestion.

    Here's an all-time Bundesliga XI made of players that never won the league:


    ------K Allofs--------Fischer------Littbarski

    ------Briegel--------Schuster------Hässler

    ----Dietz-----Rüssmann----Schulz-----Berthold

    ---------------------Nigbur
     
  22. minorthreat

    minorthreat Member

    Jan 1, 2001
    NYC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Very little is known about Pichichi, though, and since he played so long ago and died very young his legend has grown far beyond his actual accomplishments. I'm not totally sold on Arza - I thought about Isidro Langara - but Telmo Zarra is a no-brainer at center forward, being the Liga Primera's all-time leading goalscorer and joint record holder for most goals scored in a season (38, tied with Hugo Sanchez).

    I'm not sure what position Senor played, to be honest. And Guerrero is still playing.
     
  23. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Zarra is a must and at the moment, you might need to keep Arza and Langara. Senor played in the midfield and he scored the equalizing goal in the 1986 World Cup quarter-final between Spain and Belgium. Why do you have second thoughts on Arza? He scored 182 goals in 350 matches and ninth on the all-time goalscoring list for goalscorers in Spain.

    Some other suggestions are inside-left Panizo, who played 327 games and scored 133 goals between 1939-55 for Bilbao as well as playing for Spain at Brazil 50, Satrustegui who played for Sociedad in 1980s, outside-left Gainza who played in the 40s and 50s with Bilbao and Uralde, a teammate of Satrustegui at Real Sociedad.

    What do people think of Guerrero? Is he considered as a good player, a very good player or what else? I knowledge of him is limited.

    How about Juan Pizzi or is he one of those "what if he did this" type of player?
     
  24. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I originally had him in the squad but I dropped him at the last minute. I wanted to have at least one player from each winner, hence the inclusion of the not so great Wilmots and I really wanted both Dino and Roberto Baggio in the team. Klinsmann is a must upfront especially because he scored 15 goals in the 1995-96 campaign for Bayern and unfortunately Bergkamp was the unlucky dismissal.
     
  25. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    In the Italian forum, I created a forum about Uruguayans who played for Cagliari. Thanks to sardus_pater, I've created a Cagliari XI with Uruguayans only.

    GK ----------------- Carini

    DF Diego Lopez ----- Herrera ----- Joe Bizera

    MD Abeijon --- Francescoli --- Tejera ---- O'Neill

    ST Dario Silva --- Fonseca --- Victoriano

    Tejera is a player from recent times, not the one that played for Uruguay in the 1950 World Cup.
     

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