News: Impact Sub - OGS The New Gaffer Thread

Well said bro.

 

The big worry is that it wont get fixed anytime soon though because the problem isnt just lack of talent or lack of a decent manager, its an club problem from the very top. People like that are harder to remove.

 

..and dont die early either..

 

Yeah, for us. It was a bit tongue-in-cheek, tbh. I'm firmly in the camp that a new manager won't solve our problems.

JC7 is right in saying that it's a cycle. Eventually the pendulum will swing our way again, because we have too much money for it not to. However, I have major, major concerns about the way the club is being run. Like most everybody here, I am worried that we will never get it right so long as the people who run the show are still employed by MUFC.

 

Whoever we decide is in charge of the rebuild needs to be given time, but it’s clear Ole isn’t the guy. He was hired on impulse, was never the right guy, and now it’s showing. If he wasn’t a club legend he’d be getting crucified. Not sure where we go now.

To me it’s either give Ole the year despite how disastrous it will be and start talks with Poch right away so by summer he ready to go. Or make the move even earlier on someone like Allegri in January. I really just have zero faith in Ole. Again, he isn’t the biggest problem at our club but he’s not good enough to paper over the cracks.

 

My concern is not understanding this new brand of football being promised, it's been 8 months now and I see no philosophy / identity.

What the hell do we do now? We can't seem to go along the route of changing managers every year because that's not the solution.

Depressing times ahead until we change from the very top, or the Glazers sell.

 

Doesnt make good reading plus we are away again on Sunday.

For me our fate for this season was sealed when we didn't sign any midfielders.

The Jan window is a bust and although we need plenty it is already too late - so panic buying in Jan will just waste our clearly limited (but shouldnt be so) funds.

Ole has to shoulder the blame too. This team is less than the sum of its insufficient parts and that has to be on him. For me we have to stick with him for a while though.

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Ole is already starting to show cracks. Saying that a draw away to AZ where we didn’t get a single shot on goal was a good display? Gtfo with that garbage. Just saying that tells me he doesn’t have what it takes. That mindset should never be ok. Can you imagine Fergie saying that was a good result?

Ole also went on to blame the refs. He’s starting with the excuses at an early stage. It’s the same routine we saw from Jose.

 

There a lot of issue but what's with Ole's formation and tactic.
Why stick with a 4-2-3-1 all the time when we don't have a #10 and what exactly is he doing tactically. We played enough matches this season for him to settle on some sort of plan or patter of play.
We aren't scoring goals, we aren't keeping the ball, we aren't pressing high, we aren't defending deep and quick counter.

The player looks like they are playing pickup ball the last 2 matches.

When he first took over, he was switching between a diamond mid and a 4231 depending on the opponent. Now they just stick players into a 4231 and hope for the best... wtf.

 

This in a nutshell is the main problem (ie not sure we can fully have it both ways from any manager while Ed is still in charge)

Jose demotivated his players and publicly slandered them. Ole does the opposite. Make your mind up which you prefer.#MUFC

— Rob Blanchette (@_Rob_B) October 4, 2019

José Mourinho: “I don't want to be the nice guy, because the nice guy, after three months, is a puppet and that doesn't end well.”

— Man Utd Channel (@ManUtdChannel) October 4, 2019

 

Like I said in the match thread, Ole is over-elaborating and you cant do that with young players.

They have enough to learn to play their natural positions at this level.

Solskjaer says Greenwood is ‘the more natural centre forward’. But started Daniel James there last night #mufc https://t.co/Sfg9KPMLO3

— Samuel Luckhurst (@samuelluckhurst) October 4, 2019

 

I would give Ole the whole season, the squad is not top 4 material including DeGea Pogs ..

 

Top 4? Hahaha. We won’t finish top 6.

 

I swear i meant top 6 .. Bit of a typo but on current form we look like a championship promoted team..

 

I am not in the Ole out camp yet, but he has to start changing some things given we are stuck with this squad, specifically;

- 4-2-3-1 doesn't suit this squad, we don't have an effective #10 and we don't have two CMs would can play in just a pair; Pogs, McT, Fred, Matic have to be played in a midfield 3 (ie 4-3-3 or 3-5-2)

- probably too late to go 3-5-2 but is probably best system to cover our lack of good enough CMs to play as a pair and lack of a striker who can lead the line on his own

- given we didn't buy a #6 so have to look to some youth, wtf is Garner not getting a proper chance to make the first team?

- he needs to stop over-thinking / over-elaborating, with youth players making the step up he has to play them in their natural positions, having Dan James as striker with Mason out wide the other night is a prime example

- we look like we don't practice set-pieces, like ever - those responsible for taking the set-pieces should be in for extra training until they can at least provide semi-competent deliveries, this s&&t has been going on far too long

- Ole was apparently trying to get a message on about watching out for Newcastle countering on us during our set-pieces, why were we not prepared for this? teams have been doing this for months, Carrick should be spending more time with the likes of Fred / McT about performing the role

- on the above, if we are not prepared to start looking at Garner and we do switch to a 4-3-3 we need to look to repurposing one of the CBs to play either #6 in a 4-3-3 or middle CB in a 3-5-2

- needs to have a long hard think about why we are getting so many injuries, needs to change the training and / or consider changing the fitness coaches

In any case, he needs to start changing something - insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

 

He actually said this?? [emoji15]

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Come on mate, you've been reposting twitter for years. That's as fake as it comes.

 

I said when we hired him for the temporary job that he was a good pick because 1) he would help cleanse the toxicity of Mou and 2) his short resume meant he wouldn't stand in the way of us making the necessary big-picture changes: getting in a DoF, setting a core footballing philosophy, and then making a good hire at manager who suits that philosophy but is not single-handedly setting the footballing agenda at the club.

I feel for Ole because I really think he's been sold short by the club's utter failures with respect to item 2. He did his bit getting the spirit back in the troops and bringing a bit of light into what had become a dark situation. But hiring the manager of Molde and giving him free reign to do whatever he wanted with Manchester United because he had a couple months of quite fortunate (and this is not hindsight, was pretty easy to see at the time; all the stats guys were calling it out and taking shit about it) good results was always going to be a bad choice.

I'm not sure what the way forward is because, on the one hand, I don't like the job Ole is doing at all. And frankly, he probably just isn't that good a manager - there really isn't any item on his CV that would make you think that he is other than a short period last season aided by a new-manager bounce and, as I said, some fortunate results making it look even more substantial.

On the other hand, it's hard to see where firing him gets you. Maybe another new manager bounce gets us back in the top-4; certainly it doesn't seem any of our competition are threatening to run away with it. But the big picture item still remains exactly what it was when we hired Ole and bringing in a new guy and letting him set a completely new agenda when six weeks ago the club were all-in on Ole ball is pretty much the epitome of the failures that have gotten us here.

 

We are having to speculate on the specifics of what Ole wanted / was promised vs what he got in the summer transfer window - so always interesting when a bit of detail comes out.

So wonder which striker presumably who was the 'right one' it was the club didn't manage to quite get over the line?

https://metro.co.uk/2019/10/05/ole-...st-signed-replacement-romelu-lukaku-10868033/

 

I would guess he's referencing Dybala.

 

The Dybala stuff was a bit earlier, the late window rumours were about Mario Mandzukic and Inaki Williams.

Could also have been somebody the press hadn't picked up on.