Impact of Nations Leagues (UEFA original, Concacaf) on World Football? [Multiple R]

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Nico Limmat, Mar 27, 2014.

  1. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Yes, if only he was as efficient otherwise. Also impressed with Nico Elvedi's match. From gifting a goal to Belgium after sixty seconds to scoring the (group-winning) fourth. And of course Kevin Mbabu in only his third appearance.

    I don't even have to mention Shaqiri. It was a word-class performance from him.
     
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  2. Every Four Years

    May 16, 2015
    Miramar, Florida
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    Fun fact for the trivia junkies here: Switzerland's appearance in the Final Four of the 2018-19 UEFA Nations League is their first appearance in the top four of any senior-level UEFA or FIFA tournament since their silver medal at the 1924 Olympics (a senior, more or less A-team tournament in those days).
     
  3. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Completely forgot that I could add the [R] myself :D

    Looks like everyone got the UEFA memo to make this inaugural Nations League as exciting as possible, and they delivered in spades! :eek:

    Remember how worried a couple of us were about dead rubbers in the last matchday? At least in League A, we only ended up with one :thumbsup:
     
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  4. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Yeah, hardly any dead rubbers outside League D. I was never worried about there being a lot of dead rubbers. The tournament is set-up to give us evenly-balanced groups (except in League D where that is impossible). Plus its almost mathematically impossible to have many dead-rubbers when every position in a group has a different outcome (either promoted, relegated or stay where you are).

    My main concern was that the teams in League A wouldn't take it very seriously, but that was clearly not an issue.
     
  5. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Being 1924 finalists against Uruguay also made us defacto European champions. There was no Euros and we were the highest European finisher.

    Anyway, the first UEFA Nations League group stage is now concluded:

    League A
    Finals: Netherlands, Switzerland, Portugal, England
    Relegated: Germany, Iceland, Poland, Croatia

    League B

    Promoted: Ukraine, Sweden, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Denmark
    Relegated: Slovakia, Turkey, Northern Ireland, Republic of Ireland

    League C

    Promoted: Scotland, Finland, Norway, Serbia
    Relegated: Estonia, Cyprus, Slovenia, Lithuania

    League D

    Promoted: Georgia, Belarus, Kosovo, Macedonia
    Dead Last: Andorra, San Marino, Malta, Liechtenstein

    I can't believe Liechtenstein finished behind Gibraltar. But the crappiest team in Europe award goes to San Marino.

    Zero points and zero goals! In a group with "peers"!
     
  6. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    While you are at it, CONCACAF has already followed. :D
     
  7. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    And they could draw Gibraltar in the Euro qualifiers.
     
  8. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Yes, I was shocked when I saw their goal-difference before last match. No goals in 540 mins against those crap teams. Jeeeeez.
     
  9. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    In the article posted in the Club World Cup expansion thread there was mention of South American teams maybe being involved within the Nations league in Future Editions. (Followed by a World Cup every two years discussion.)

    A UEFA-CONMEBOL Nations league would be pretty cool.
     
  10. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    Apparently CAF is going to announce a Nations League which will begin in Aug 2019 right after the 2019 ANC in the summer. It seems this is the future, and I hope this builds to a Global Nations League which would be great.
     
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  11. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Excellent news! IMO, the CAF and UEFA share a same issue that the Nations League goes a long way towards fixing: a dearth of competitive matches between the top sides outside of continental finals.
     
  12. JLSA

    JLSA Member

    Nov 11, 2003
    Do you have a source we could read?

    J
     
  13. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
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  14. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Does this mean that CAF will drop a couple of their current tournaments for senior national teams?
     
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  15. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    You are actually more likely to play better teams in a nations league than in an actual continental tournament.

    With the 24 team format you will be avoiding the top teams until later, if you get knocked out early, or other top teams get knocked out early , there can be a lack of top quality match ups for many teams.

    This nations league format ensures you play the top teams who are more or less your equal.
     
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  16. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    I haven't heard anything about that, but it may happen in the future.

    As is this nations league could take place in just 3 FIFA windows with double headers, so it wouldn't really take up that much time. It would be best if they used it to double as the ANC qualifying for the next edition.
     
  17. JLSA

    JLSA Member

    Nov 11, 2003
  18. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Yup. And the World Cup, for that matter. Once it expands to 48 teams, clashes between top teams will be few and far between.
     
  20. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    And has already happened by default and it can only get worse. Nigeria hasn't played Ghana in almost a decade and they're among the biggest rivals on the continent... this could certainly help with that...
     
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  21. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    With a CAF championship every two years its not as if they don't get the opportunity. A nations league can easily still see them in different groups with one of them not making it through to the finals.
     
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  22. italiancbr

    italiancbr Member

    Apr 15, 2007
    The reason CAF and Concacaf hold biennial tournaments is because of the revenue generated. If a Global Nations League were to materialize, I'm sure they'd be more than happy to only hold one continental championship every four years, especially if a Nations League generated anywhere near the money that FIFA promised it would.
     
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  23. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It depends on how many teams would make money from a Global Nations League. The Gold Cups that will have 16 teams and Africa Cup of Nations that will have 24 teams will include teams that aren't among the top 100 in the world. If a Global Nations League has its top league with 8 groups of 4 for 32 teams or even 16 groups of 4 for 64 teams, there could be Concacaf and CAF teams who would prefer the status quo to half as many confederational tournaments and a Global Nations League.
     
  24. fero

    fero Member

    Oct 31, 2011
    Argentina
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    My guess 6 continental Nations league fighting for a spot in the 32 teams Worrd League. Everybody happy.
    This year Panama vs Jamaica, Canada and Costa Rica and if we beat then next year versus Germany, Colombia and Japan, home and away.
    The worst 8 of the WL get replaced by the best team of it own confederation

    PROBLEMS:
    Oceania get a spot?
    How many times we gonna see a USA-Mexico or a Japan-Korea in the WL?
     
  25. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Mathematically it would be probable that they meet every four years with a CAF Nations League season every 2 years though...
     
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