Ignore the blah, blah, blah - the Paul Pogba thread

While I tend to agree with Johno on this one, who have to realize that he rates Pogba higher than most. So he may inflate Pogbas capabilities and performances. It's pretty normal. I do the same with Berbatov while many United fans see him as a disappointment.

I didn't read back to how Davids v Pogba started, but they are very different players. Pogba is higher highs and lower lows. He capable of more than Davids was but is much less consistent and doesn't specialize in a few things like Davids did.

 

Players who can talk about consistency from Pogba are guys like Scholes and or a Seedorf or anyone who had more than one thing to their game. Davids certainly had a great career but he was never anything but a guy who ran around really fast and tackled everything that moved. He carried water for better players everywhere he played. Run and tackle, he wasn't even particularly astute positionally.

I wouldn't say he was the key player for any team that won anything.

To question whether Pogba>>Davids is to ignore what they've done.

In any case. Pogba is deserving of criticism but he gets a great deal of shit talked about him unfairly. The same folks who talk shit when he has a bad game (it happens to everyone except Scholes) don't give him the same type of credit when he has a massive game or worse, don't acknowledge the obstacles he faces.

 

Its clear that Mourinho is holding Pogba back. Mou had no choice but to unleash Pogba against Newcastle with them being 2-0 down.

But what happens against Chelsea and Juventus? The obvious answer is Pogba has to sit back unless they go 2 goals down.

 

Pogba is set to splurge on rings for the whole French WC winning squad.

www.bleacherreport.com/articles/2800089-report-paul-pogba-to-pay-for-nba-style-rings-for-frances-2018-world-cup-win

Very generous and cool gesture from Pogba. Don't see it catching on, but it'd be even cooler if it started a new trend in time, replacing medals with rings, as they do in the US.

 

Rings are tacky.

 

Pogba should say nothing and just play football - Pires

www.espn.com/soccer/english-premier-league/story/3665107/manchester-uniteds-paul-pogba-should-say-nothing-play-football-robert-pires?src=com

 

He likes to talk and express his feelings, you cant take away something which is in his nature.

 

Agreed. Footballers are human beings and you can't take away from them a massive part of who they are.

 

Souness doing a Q&A for Sky, the questions below are amazing

Graeme Souness won a total of 2⃣3⃣ trophies as a player and manager! 🏆

He joins the team for tonight's #MNF, so tweet your questions in now! pic.twitter.com/xcwfcGFNSg

— Sky Sports Retro (@SkySportsRetro) October 22, 2018

Did your wife automatically connect to Paul Pogba‘ WiFi?

— Farman Bond (@Farman_Bond007) October 22, 2018

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Fletcher on Pogba and his role in the team.

www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11545801/Paul-pogbas-man-utd-role-discussed-by-darren-fletcher

It's interesting for sure, but Pogba has shown he can pretty much do it all in midfield. And the key is how the team plays and who surrounds him, more than anything else.

 

Fletcher saying Pogba not disciplined enough for reserves when he went from there to dominating in Serie A is all you need to know about his insight.

 

What Fletcher said was not wrong. What yoh said is wrong.

Pogba was, and still shows a lack of discipline. Wether it be marking on set pieces, defending or tracking back in transition, or just general decision making in our own half. Hes 25 or so.


He didnt dominate Serie A.

 

And tbf, having Pirlo and Vidal sitting behind you so you can do whatever you need to help the team is pretty reassuring.

 

I like how setting up and scoring goals is amazing when somebody else does it, but when Pogba does it, isn't enough. 31 goals and 28 assists in 4 seasons as midfielder is elite. It is ludicrous for someone making their initial foray into first team football. It is better than any decade in Fletcher's career.

 

Johno being johno

 

Is Pogba a big game player?

www.skysports.com/football/news/11096/11545416/is-manchester-united-midfielder-paul-pogba-a-big-game-player

 

We have both been on this board long enough for you to try this nonsense with me.

 

Pogba didn't dominate in Serie A, he benefitted from being in a dominant midfield of a dominant team in a weak league. He was devoid of any responsibility.

 

cmon man, lol.

 

60 g+a for a kid? Go ahead, name 3 of the surely dozens of midfielders in serie a who did that.

 

28 goals and 31 assists - in a very non-competitive league - that is about to see Juve win their 8th straight championship. Pogba went to Italian football at a time when it was the weakest it has been in decades.

Aside from that - those numbers are good. They are not elite. Elite numbers are what Lamps put up in his prime.

Lamps d.z. 03/04 > 06/07 --- 50G/43A at a time when the premier league was the best league in the world. Lamps best season alone was almost as good as the four season stretch you quoted for Pogs (09/10 - 22g 16a in the league alone)

Mate, we get it, you like Pogba and have a blind spot.

His performance, work ethic, and attitude have not been of the type to justify a $100,000,000-man. He needs to do better, or we need to sell him and bring in SMS.

 

Likewise - I wonder how Pogba would do if he was playing against Keane, Gerrard, Mascherano, Ferdinand, Terry, and some of the other great defenders and midfielders plopped across the EPL at the time.

Edit: The league quality was on both sides and is an equalizer. Pogba has quality players around him - Martial and Rashford both have every bit of potential that Arjen Robben and Lukaku has scored equally in line with Drogba. Next.