If Messi wins the world cup, will he sit along side Pele and Maradona?

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If Messi wins the world cup, will he sit along side Pele and Maradona?

Poll closed Sep 5, 2014.
  1. Yes

    53.7%
  2. No

    46.3%
  1. persia1378

    persia1378 Member

    Oct 15, 2012
    Italy
    Club:
    Perspolis
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    i dont think this tournament has been fair to ronaldo at all. This was supposed to be his world cup and could have been his world cup if not for a series of bad luck and injuries to himself and teammates. Look for him to bounce back with Portugal in euro qualifying, im expecting big things from portugal come euro 2016. In my opinion the 2018 world cup will decide the ronaldo messi debate, ronaldo will be 33 and messi 31, and i dont see how they are going to decline by then, so that will be the real decider, if both manage to stay healthy one of them will be regarded as the greatest of all time after that tournament.
     
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  2. Jaweirdo

    Jaweirdo Member+

    Aug 19, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    What Messi needs after this World Cup: a year long vacation
     
  3. Jaweirdo

    Jaweirdo Member+

    Aug 19, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    It was unfair to Ronaldo, but to be quite honest and not trying to offend anyone here, he was never really in the pele vs. maradona discussion in the first place.
     
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  4. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    I thought he did take a long vacation before the WC?
     
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  5. Jaweirdo

    Jaweirdo Member+

    Aug 19, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    He played >60 games for the past 6 seasons. For comparison Maradona played 31 games the season before the World Cup. He said his legs felt like 100 kilos each.
     
  6. Bazi

    Bazi Member+

    Jan 15, 2009
    Wuerzburg (Germany)
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Close to two years actually, his work-rate has been horrible since Guardiola left Barcelona.
     
  7. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    They can easily decline before 2018 due to age. They both rely on their speed to do a lot of the things they do, and everyone slows down when they get older. Guys like Ibrahimovic and Pirlo who never used speed to their advantage tend to age more gracefully.
     
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  8. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Messi ain´t even close to Pele!
     
  9. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    Messi at his young age caught dead in 2010, and at his peak caught choked in last 3games WC2014 ... too bad ...
    unless you HOPE Messi will get into his peak at 31 in WC2018? LOL

    for sure he is NO PELE
     
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  10. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    Pirlo and Ibra shone in older age THANKS TO WEAK era ... of no quality pplayers
     
  11. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    no in last 12games hwen Barca was in DEEP trouble and Messi did not show up ... many Barca fans said " oh becuase he SAVED energy for this WC" - you should remember this! Pleeeeeez
     
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  12. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    So did a lot of other players, Messi last year played 44 games while Ronaldo for example played 47 and Thomas Muller played 51.... Nothing out of the ordinary for those players. That's a lame excuse.
     
  13. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Different thread, same drivel.
     
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  14. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    oh my god stop it with the weak era argument... it sounds so stupid...
     
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  15. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    usually the ones who do NOT understand and acknowledge the truth are stupid
     
  16. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    well I give you a CHANCE to prove this is a VERY STRONG era LOL
     
  17. Jaweirdo

    Jaweirdo Member+

    Aug 19, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    You completely ignored the part that I said the past 6 seasons.
     
  18. Jaweirdo

    Jaweirdo Member+

    Aug 19, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I do remember that I was one of the people who thought he did. Thats what has me thinking hes tired, has a minor injury, or this is his "new style" as some people have procclaimed.
     
  19. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    Past 6 seasons Neymar has also played that much, Ronaldo also played that much (he hasn't been injured) Ribery etc..

    doesn't change anything
     
  20. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    Messi and C. Ronaldo

    thanks for playing
     
  21. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    well ... what can I say about your "thinking" ??? LOL
     
  22. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    I think this thread is no longer valid ...

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  23. theblake30

    theblake30 New Member

    Jul 21, 2014
    Definitely no longer valid. It was a missed opportunity for Messi, though. I think he would have surpassed Maradona in most people's minds. I'm not sure Argentina will be in this good of a position four years from now.
     
  24. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    the losers in WC and Euro/Copa ? thanks to remind me
     
  25. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    Good! right now they are tied with Cruyff, Maldini, Figo, Zico, Socrates, Falcao, Roberto Dinamite, Junior, R. Baggio, Costacurta, Raul, Morientes, Wilmots, Seedorf, Bergkamp, Valderrama, any english player you can think of for the longest time, Crespo, Zanetti, Chilavert, Veron, Stoichkov, Hagi among many others that have no accomplished this.

    So is that really your basis for weak or strong era?
     
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