How will the Champions League change football moving forward?

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by benficafan3, Aug 22, 2017.

  1. benficafan3

    benficafan3 Member+

    Nov 16, 2005
    I'm not sure if there is any interest in such a discussion, but I'd be curious to see if there were any thoughts people had regarding Champions League and its context in global football. Specifically, the regulation changes, presented in UEFA's double-speak of the "Evolution of UEFA Club Competitions in 2018", set to go through shortly. The changes, shown below, clearly will foster competition, like say, the competition we used to see prior to 1992. When countries from all corners of Europe were given the ability to challenge and compete with one another in an equitable manner. This meant a properly diverse set of clubs, including Eastern European teams, winning the European Cup.

    The advent of the Champions League was, obviously, commercially driven. The competition turned from a knockout competition to incorporating group stages. Group stages = more games = more $$$. Like the bafoons they are, however, they incorporated group stages towards the end of the competition time frame, with winners of groups going to the final. You'd think they'd use the countless examples of national tournaments for logistics guidance but the people who make these decisions do not care about ramifications that do not encroach on their respective bottom-lines. Florentino Perez in his first presidency of Real Madrid, did not care about what happened on the field, as long as the Galacticos brought $$$, which they did, regardless of on-field results. Ultimately, in his second time around, he realized how on-field greatness would get him more of what he wanted. This is the type of personality that is embedded in everyone running the sport.

    England had all their clubs banned for 6 years from European competition because of Heysel back in the 1980s. Can anyone actually see such a thing happening now, for even one year? No clubs from the British market = massive revenue loss for every year it happens. Real Madrid can drop an atomic bomb on an opponent's fans and all they'd get is a "Tisk tisk, shame on you" more or less. Eventually, it was 94/95 that the format we are now accustomed to now was created. It's essentially stayed the same since, with UEFA gracious enough to not continue two phases of group stages. Gotta milk the players for all they're worth, but milk them too much and quality falls, and perhaps, revenue.

    Changes


    • The UEFA Europa League winners will automatically qualify for the UEFA Champions League group stage (currently they can potentially take part in a play-off round).
    • The top four clubs from the four top-ranked national associations will now qualify automatically for the group stage of the UEFA Champions League.
    • The full details of the access list for both competitions will be finalised by the end of the year.
    • A new system for the club coefficients: clubs will be judged on their own records (deletion of the country share for individual club coefficient unless that coefficient is lower than 20% of the association's coefficient).
    • Historical success in the competition will also be acknowledged in coefficient calculation (points for previous European titles with a weighted system for UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League titles)
    • Financial distribution to clubs will be increased significantly for both competitions.
    • A new four-pillar financial distribution system (starting fee, performance in the competition, individual club coefficient and market pool) will see sporting performances better rewarded, while market pool share will decrease.

    The statements noted above will no doubt change the landscape of European football, in a move clearly done to favor the wealthy clubs, and consequently, nations. They said they were looking for "historical success" as an added benefit, but that is just the legal-speak proxy for wealth. PSG doesn't have the historical success, but they are increasingly trying to compete against nobody in their league, the access to the CL is secure. It's for the Manchester Uniteds of recent seasons. The wealthiest club in the world not making a presence & impact in the Champions League is a financial travesty and mental-gymnastics will be done to ensure of their like, is there moving forward.

    And yet, you wonder how much further this growing, massive gap in wealth between the Top 5 (Spain, England, Italy, Germany, France) leagues and "The Rest", the Non-Top 5 leagues. This group, given how large it is, could be segmented further, with historically successful clubs representing a clear deviation from the average, demonstrating a similar widening gap that is seen in the Top 5/Non-Top 5 dynamic.

    In the past 4 years, of the 32 potential Quarter-Finalists in the Champions League only 3 (Benfica, Porto & Galatasaray) were outside the Top 5 leagues. Take a look at the Quarter-Finalists in say, 1980 or 81, of the European Cup, and the level of difference is disturbingly clear.

    European competitions are becoming more of a 'merry go round' than a competition. Elite clubs trading the trophy around like a hot potato. These regulation changes are pervasive and their impact extends deeply. It results in overall global talent being concentrated in very small areas. Could it be, that the rise of the Champions League in 1992, in turn blowing away any historical equivalence to South American clubs that existed, part of the aggregate, concerted move of the sport towards 'commercialization' drawing away South American talents earlier and earlier.

    Could this help explain Argentina & Brazil's levels of low achievement in recent times relative to the past? Would Boca Juniors not benefit from holding onto their talents longer? In turn, would Argentina not benefit by having their players play in a centralized location, learning in the same environment? What happens when you go from that, to what we have now, a consortium of players that have been used to playing a multitude of different playing styles all over the world, and expected to gel as a proper team?

    I have some thoughts but am interested in hearing what others think on this, largely because I believe, for its impact, it is going too much under the radar and will have systemic impacts on the sport moving forward.
     
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  2. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    According to https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method5/trank2018.html which includes the 2013-2014 through the beginning of 2017-2018, Eintracht Frankfurt and VfB Stuttgart would each have 12.685 points, which is the minimum for a German club. Eintracht Frankfurt earned 12 points on their own and VfB Stuttgart earned 1.5 points, but since both of those are less than 12.685 both clubs have the same coefficient. Is that fair to Eintracht Frankfurt? Astana is ranked ahead of Everton, 15.75 to 15.50. The minimum coefficient for an English club is 12.478, which is less than what Everton has, so Everton isn't helped by playing in much better league than Astana. Is that fair?
     
  3. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    This is a good point with regards to national teams and clubs but at the same time those countries remain influential and powerful within FIFA, and because there is plenty of supply and they are marketable (for ex. in the Diaspora in USA) there are also many figures willing to invest time, knowledge and money in local talent.
     

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