Muni was a solid 3rd in popularity for the longest time. U - Muni was dubbed "el clasico moderno" even in the 90s.
actually cristal - La U was branded el clasico moderno since they both dominated the 90's remember alianza went 17 years without winning the national championship and muni in the 90's were usually found at the bottom of the table
For those 10 years older than you Condor, yes, U-Muno was th eclasico moderno. It was the days of Sotil in Muni ... .
u mean the late 60's early 70's? btw its intereting that defensor lima was the 2nd peruvian team to make the libertadores semis wtf happened to them?
Defensor Lima? I remember them, but as I was looking for then on the net, I found this list. Who could update this for the missing last few years? Goleadores Históricos Año Goleador Club Goles 1928 Alejandro Villanueva Alianza Lima 3 1929 Carlos Cilloniz Federación Universitaria 8 1930 Manuel Puente Atlético Chalaco 3 1931 Alejandro Villanueva Alianza Lima 16 1932 "Lolo" Fernández Universitario 11 1933 "Lolo" Fernández Universitario 9 1934 "Lolo" Fernández Universitario 9 1935 Jorge Alcalde Sport Boys 5 1936 - - - 1937 Juan Flores Sport Boys 10 1938 Jorge Alcalde Sport Boys 8 1939 "Lolo" Fernández Universitario 15 1940 "Lolo" Fernández Universitario 15 1941 Jorge Cabrejos Universitario 13 1942 "Lolo" Fernández Universitario 11 1943 Germán Cerro Universitario 9 1944 Víctor Espinoza Universitario 16 1945 "Lolo" Fernández Universitario 16 1946 Valeriano López Sport Boys 22 1947 Valeriano López Sport Boys 20 1948 Valeriano López Sport Boys 20 1949 Emilio Salinas Alianza Lima 18 1950 Alberto Terry Universitario 16 1951 Valeriano López Sport Boys 31 1952 Emilio Salinas Alianza Lima 22 1953 Gualberto Bianco Atlético Chalaco 17 1954 Vicente Villanueva Sporting Tabaco 14 1955 Máximo Mosquera Alianza Lima 11 1956 Daniel Ruiz Universitario 16 1957 Daniel Ruiz Universitario 20 1958 Juan Joya Alianza Lima 17 1959 Daniel Ruiz Universitario 28 1960 Fernando Olaechea Centro Iqueño 18 1961 Alberto Gallardo Sporting Cristal 18 1962 Alberto Gallardo Sporting Cristal 22 1963 Pedro León Alianza Lima 13 1964 Angel Uribe Universitario 15 1965 Carlos Urrunaga Defensor Lima 16 1966 Teófilo Cubillas Alianza Lima 19 1967 Pedro León Alianza Lima 14 1968 Oswaldo Ramírez Sport Boys 26 1969 Jaime Mosquera Defensor Lima 15 1970 Teófilo Cubillas Alianza Lima 22 1971 Manuel Mellán Deportivo Municipal 25 1972 Francisco Gonzáles Defensor Lima 20 1973 Francisco Gonzáles Defensor Lima 25 1974 Pablo Muchotrigo Cienciano 24 1975 José Leyva Alfonso Ugarte 25 1976 Alejandro Luces Unión Huaral 17 1977 Freddy Ravello Alianza Lima 21 1978 Juan José Oré Universitario 19 1979 José Leyva Alfonso Ugarte 28 1980 Oswaldo Ramírez Sporting Cristal 18 1981 José Carranza Alianza Lima 15 1982 Percy Rojas Universitario 19 1983 Juan Caballero Sporting Cristal 29 1984 Jaime Drago Universitario 13 1985 Genaro Neyra Deportivo Municipal 22 1986 Juvenal Briceño Melgar FBC 16 1987 Fidel Suárez Universitario 20 1988 Alberto Mora Octavio Espinoza 15 1989 Carlos Delgado Carlos Manucci 14 1990 Claudio Adao (BRA) Sport Boys 31 1991 Horacio Baldessari (ARG) Sporting Cristal 25 1992 Marquinho (BRA) Sport Boys 18 1993 Waldir Sáenz Alianza Lima 31 1994 Flavio Maestri Sporting Cristal 25 1995 Julinho (BRA) Sporting Cristal 23 1996 Waldir Sáenz Alianza Lima 19 1997 Ricardo Zegarra Alianza Atlético Sullana 17 1998 Nilson Esidio (BRA) Sporting Cristal 25 1999 Israel Zúñiga Melgar FBC 32 2000 Esidio (BRA) Universitario 37 2001 Jorge Ramírez Wanka 23 2002 Luis Artime (ARG) Melgar 24 Referencias: El goleador histórico del fútbol peruano es el brasileño Eduardo Esidio que con Universitario marcó 37 goles en el año 2000. http://www.terra.com.pe/deportes/futbol/peru-goleadores.shtml This is on the 1st division club level.
reading that list seems that lolo is the player with the most apperances in first place with 7 valeriano follows him with 4 garcia here are the final 2 years top scorers 2003 Luis BONNET [Argentina] Sporting Cristal 20 2004 Gabriel GARCIA [Uruguay] Melgar FBC 35 meaning that the last peruvian born player to lead the goalscoring was loverita ramirez
Damn, mi querida Crema de mis amores is still number one.... I could've swore i've seen more Kagones here than U fans. I guess most are undercover.
Whoa, Valeriano Lopez was a monster, good deal. And I've always wondered what's with the "gallina" nickname? I know it's been around forever but where does it come from? Please don't tell me you bit the Argentines' nickname for River Plate.
This is my official post declaring my allegiance to la "U". Didnt know what team I was until an Uncle recently told me.
Probably created by the other teams because those are actually insults, right? It probably just came from the common slang words used by the people and they started calling them and their teams those names. Origin? Where to look it up? Who to ask? I know if I ask my dad, he will tell me some Peruvian invented the word. One time in grade school, I asked my dad for help with some history homework and he gave a totally different perspective from what is taught in the USA that the teacher gave me an F. Years later, I learned that he was correct, but gave it a different angle.
I declare my allegiance as well! I actually was born into it.. i dont think i had much of a choice If its one club ive always followed faithfully in the past few years, it has been Die Bayern!
I know that the name "Gallina" was given to River Plate because during a match between Boca-River, a chicken was seen on the field, I believe that it came out of the River Plate tribuna. Boca fans are called "Bosteros" because they are located at the end of the river, in other words where all the "Crap" from the river ends up. There was horrible stench in the area where Boca used to play. I beleive Boca are called cagones. P.S. Im a huge River Plate fan and "U" fan, in other words... Gallina for life!
I'm almost sure Cristal are called pavos because of their passive fans. Aliancistas were called monos and negros for years for obvious reasons. In the 90s U fans began calling them "cagones", probably cuz those were the years Alianza sucked so bad and hadn't won a championship in 19 years.
ese equipo era un maquina solano, chorri, julinho, maestri, garay, coyote rivera(creo que estaba el o me estoy confundiendo con el 95), pinillos(en su mejor momento)
I think its because of the uniform. Alianza are called cagones because of the black horsemen back in the 1930's and also since a lot of peruvian are racist(for them being black is being synonymous to shit) And why does people call SC pavos? I still dont get it, because there was a farm of turkeys in the SC institution or what?
Because la U's opponents are some dull, unimaginative tards. They just copied the insult of other teams around South America River Plate, Nacional de Uruguay and a couple of other teams are also called gallinas. Lame. That's not it. Alianza only began being called cagones in the late 90s. Before that, it was strictly "monos". Growing up, that's all I knew. How embarrassing. And you're probably serious about not knowing why Cristal are pavos so here it is: In Peruvian slang, a pavo is someone that's dim-witted, slow and even nerdy. Cristal's "barra" has always been small and weak so they got that name. Of course, that's not true anymore. I mean, just look at fran.
Thats what a friend told me years ago, and he was 35 years old. There were black horsemen in the hipodromo of Monterrico and all of them were aliancistas thats how it started.
o yeah? so what about cagones? isnt that the way river fans refer to boca junior fans? you tell me what to say? i think no is good.