Hello Cleveland

Discussion in 'Cleveland' started by C. B., Jan 6, 2014.

  1. C. B.

    C. B. Member

    Sep 6, 2013
    OKC
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What is the latest news on the USL PRO expansion team for Cleveland?
     
  2. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    Columbus Crew SC
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    NKY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    None.
     
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  3. CCSUltra

    CCSUltra Member+

    Nov 18, 2008
    Cleveland
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, that's not completely true. Our NPSL team has spoken with both leagues about moving up.

    No idea if/when the team would move, but there have been talks.
     
  4. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    Columbus Crew SC
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    NKY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Speaking with someone isn't "news" though.

    I was just answering the question.
     
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  5. BulaJacket

    BulaJacket Member

    May 9, 2003
    Denver / Cleveland / MN / Jax
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Personally I'd prefer NASL.

    And as an aside, if I were the Rochester Rhinos, they should fit that profile as well. Historically borderline market for MLS (not really anymore), solid SSS, medium sized market, team history, etc - if their owners put some work into that team, like some of the NASL teams, there could be a revival with that team/market, rather than being an afterthought USL Pro team.

    Sorry for the aside, but it's what I think about with Cleveland - be a little more ambitious.
     
  6. mng146

    mng146 Member

    Jul 19, 2011
    Rochester, NY
    I've seen less than that reported as "news" in NASL threads (*cough* LA *cough*). It's all subjective. Someone asked the question, any real answers are appropriate.
     
  7. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    Columbus Crew SC
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    NKY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The real answer is...they must focus on sustainability right now before they think about MORE investment [that's not present].
     
  8. Kolyn

    Kolyn Member

    May 15, 2012
    Waterford, Ireland
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    I've seen it said elsewhere that Rochester doesn't have an owner worth 20 million?
     
  9. Orlando Rays

    Orlando Rays We're not gonna let the elevator break us down
    Staff Member

    Nov 5, 2007
    Orlando
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nor who really cares about NASL. Rochester was originally part of the TOA (the rebel syndicate that created NASL), but ultimately balked at joining NASL and stayed in USL Pro.
     
  10. Kolyn

    Kolyn Member

    May 15, 2012
    Waterford, Ireland
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Actually, Rochester wasn't part of the original group. They jumped on board after the others had left, hence why they played in the USL half of the USSF D2 league that year. During that season, they jumped back to USL.
     
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  11. BulaJacket

    BulaJacket Member

    May 9, 2003
    Denver / Cleveland / MN / Jax
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If I was NASL, I'd do anything to get Lebron involved...lol ;)
    He has soccer connections after all.
     
  12. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True-ish.

    Rochester was in with Puerto Rico, Portland and Austin (as well as Tampa Bay and Minnesota, who had defected) because somebody had to be. PR and Portland, of course, ended up in the NASL for 2011 (Portland was already halfway out the door). They had originally thrown in with the TOA folks in late November 2009, but then jumped back to USL between legs of the USSF2 finals that year. Puerto Rico had jumped a month and a half prior to that.
     
  13. Clevelandmo

    Clevelandmo Member

    Mar 28, 2011
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hear a 10,000 seat stadium in downtown Cleveland and USL team is in the works
     
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  14. oneeyedfool

    oneeyedfool Member+

    Nov 17, 2012
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Source?
     
  15. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yes please elaborate.
     
  16. Clevelandmo

    Clevelandmo Member

    Mar 28, 2011
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A man in the business of building stadiums.
     
  17. oneeyedfool

    oneeyedfool Member+

    Nov 17, 2012
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From no team to 10,000 seater soccer specific stadium out of the gate would be a pretty quick progression.
     
  18. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So it could be Donald Trump or Robert Kraft?
     
  19. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How many people are in the business of building stadiums?
     
  20. oneeyedfool

    oneeyedfool Member+

    Nov 17, 2012
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. oneeyedfool

    oneeyedfool Member+

    Nov 17, 2012
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was answering the question about who is building stadiums by citing the USL has a stadium development partnership in place. The inference would be that if this is a USL team, and they are following the best practices of the league, HOK would be the likely candidate as the Cleveland stadium builder.
     
  23. Clevelandmo

    Clevelandmo Member

    Mar 28, 2011
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have it from 100% trustworthy source that a group who is in the business of building stadiums has plans well underway to build a stadium in downtown Cleveland. This group is also building a stadium for Cincinnati FC so it may well be HOK I didnt know about them until the above post. A USL team is part of the plan for the stadium's use but that hasn't happened yet. However, I don't see that as a problem if you have a stadium since Cleveland has a very large soccer community. As you might expect there are other intended uses for the stadium.
     
  24. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kind of hard to keep those things under wraps for too long, but okay.
     
  25. FootySkeptic

    FootySkeptic Member

    Sep 24, 2015
    Club:
    Cardiff City FC
    Wonder if the rest of the rust belt derby will follow suit. I remember reading mention of them going up together, also in interviews regarding going pro with the buffalo organization there was no stated preference.

    If true it would be great for the USL to add potentially one (or maybe 3) independent teams. Perhaps LeBron is involved. Perhaps Columbus is looking for an affiliate/reserve team as well who knows at this point.

    All we really have to go on is the stadium rumour, which if memory serves me correctly, is usually not the best indicator, as those things always get complicated.
     

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