Health Care Reform Part IV: The Trumpening

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  1. Geneva

    Geneva LA for Life

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    The solution is no sex!
     
  2. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    Fyp
     
  3. appoo

    appoo Member+

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    Hey! I don't support it!
     
  4. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

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    The solution is rich people sex.
     
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  5. Geneva

    Geneva LA for Life

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    Will the AHCA pay for vasectomies and tubal ligations?
     
  6. flowergirl

    flowergirl Member+

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    If you've ever heard the spiel that women get when they want a tubal before they're 45, especially if they're very young or unmarried, you'd know the answer to that.
     
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  7. dapip

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    #2307 dapip, May 25, 2017
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    Those funds have been reallocated to Viagra and Cialis. See below.

    fyp. Also illustration:
    Handmaid's Tale (open)

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  8. superdave

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    Fun fact: Under the AHCA, monthly insurance premiums are slated to go up $1000 for pregnancies. An abortion costs $500.
     
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  9. ceezmad

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    I tried reading the book, that shit needed an English translation, I gave up on the book.
     
  10. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    I had thought the conservatives in the House were just evil, but maybe they're just incredibly ignorant.

    http://ijr.com/2017/05/881482-cbo-h...ople-face-higher-premiums-even-priced-market/
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    "Additionally, “Out-of-pocket spending on maternity care and mental health and substance abuse services could increase by thousands of dollars in a given year” if states strip EHBs, the report asserted.

    Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), — who played a pivotal role in including state waiver options in AHCA — hadn't read the full report yet, but initially said he saw it as “good news.”

    When reporters pointed out the portion of the CBO report saying individuals with preexisting conditions in waiver states would be charged higher premiums and could even be priced out of the insurance market — destabilizing markets in those states — under AHCA, Meadows seemed surprised.

    “Well, that’s not what I read,” Meadows said, putting on his reading glasses and peering at the paragraph on the phone of a nearby reporter.

    The CBO predicted:

    “...the waivers in those states would have another effect: Community-rated premiums would rise over time, and people who are less healthy (including those with preexisting or newly acquired medical conditions) would ultimately be unable to purchase comprehensive non-group health insurance at premiums comparable to those under current law, if they could purchase it at all — despite the additional funding that would be available under H.R. 1628 to help reduce premiums.""

    "After reading the paragraph, Meadows told reporters he would go through the CBO analysis more thoroughly and run the numbers, adding he would work to make sure the high-risk pools are properly funded.

    Meadows, suddenly emotional, choked back tears and said, "Listen, I lost my sister to breast cancer. I lost my dad to lung cancer. If anybody is sensitive to preexisting conditions, it’s me. I’m not going to make a political decision today that affects somebody’s sister or father because I wouldn’t do it to myself.”"
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    If you're a tl;dr type person, here's the summary. The AHCA really does achieve savings for the young and healthy. Unless Meadows has a SAG card based on his ability to convincingly fake crying, he, one of the LEADERS of the Freedom Caucus, actually, literally, doesn't understand health care. I think when he heard anecdotes about this group or that group seeing their costs go up under the ACA, he thought it was because the ACA is a bad law. He actually, literally, didn't understand that those higher costs for various small groups were the cost of affordable rates for the old or sick. He actually, literally, doesn't understand how insurance works.

    I wish I could be a fly on the wall when some insurance wonk explains to him what it would cost to protect those with pre-existing conditions. It would be awesome to see the look on his face as it dawned on him how awful the AHCA is for people like his sister and her family.
     
  11. song219

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    Why shouldn't low-information voters have low-information Congressmen?
     
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  12. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

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    ******** them all. Seriously just ******** them all.
     
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  13. Smurfquake

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    But not with my ****. Find someone else. Use Ann Coulter's, she's not using it for anything else.
     
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  14. dapip

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    Well, they are willfully ignorant and unable to comprehend all the pain and damage they will cause. In their minds and their twisted view of Christianity, they consider that the government shouldn't help undeserving people and obviously, they consider themselves deserving of everything good they get, and any negative outcome it's to be blame on others.

    It is a very very twisted view but unfortunately there is no minimum qualifications to run for most political offices, hence we are stucked with a bunch of know-nothings congress critters, some of them obviously evil.
     
  15. Bklyn Royals Fan

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    I am really glad there is a Non-partisan CBO that can provide an analysis like this.

    Now, how are Republicans going to spin this?
     
  16. dapip

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    "Most of the newly uninsured are undeserving of it, mexican illegals, mooslims, gheis and pro-abortion sluts. You fine white real 'Muricans don't have to pay for them anymore."
     
  17. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

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    They are going to point to the premium reductions for the young and healthy (while forgetting that many of the reductions are due to a reduction of coverage and increases in premiums of older and people with pre-existing conditions) and the budget reduction.
     
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  18. superdave

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    Yeah, how AARP reacts between now and November 2018 is going to be very interesting.
     
  19. ElJefe

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    They're running TV ads in Denver against TrumpCare.
     
  20. Bklyn Royals Fan

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    Yoshou, good talking points for the GOP. They can also point to how the young can put their 'savings' into Health Savings Accounts. (But the youth will probably spend that on $19 avacado toast right?) Sucks being middle age for me!

    lol
     
  21. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

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    Wail, the easiest way to lower your premiums to nothing is to not have any insurance at all. If'n you accidentally get a nail gun to th' haid, then you just go to the Mergency Room. It's free anyways.
     
  22. Boloni86

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    Can also report AARP ads in Minnesota. Not the last few days, but they were common around both House votes. I imagine there will be more once it becomes clearer what the Senate is going to do.
     
  23. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

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    I'm pretty sure I saw AARP ads in the DC market weeks ago.
     
  24. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Cascarino's Pizzeria BigSoccer Yellow Card

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    Ya ever heard of KimYe?
     
  25. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

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    The Senate is going to wipe its ass with this bill, as they should. It's not going anywhere.
     

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