#HauptmanOut

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by burningfire, Aug 7, 2013.

  1. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Allegedly fights were started, I don't know much about it either.
     
  2. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We are only ahead of a team that is likely gone after this season and a team that played their home opener in a 5k capacity stadium.

    21.Chicago Fire............9.....128,487.....14,276
    22.Columbus Crew.......9.......93,618.....10,402
    23.D.C. United...............2.......17,524.......8,762

    GREAT JOB Andi and NRod.......
     
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  3. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Heavily inflated number.
     
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  4. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, our number is inflated.
     
  5. skinut

    skinut Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 25, 2000
    Castle Pines, CO (or often elsewhere on earth)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cakes & NRod are cancer.
     
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  6. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    And keep in mind one of those 9 games was the largest crowd in TP history to see Zlatan.
     
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  7. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    That is true, but it only amounts to a swing of about 1,000 people, when projected over the season so far, and only about 400 over the season as a whole.
     
  8. lncolnpk

    lncolnpk Member+

    Mar 5, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Current attendance is the lowest since 2011 14274
     
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  9. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I have a bunch of Latino friends that are interested in coming out to games....
     
  10. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If it wasn't for Zlatan it would have drawn in the 11k range, oh and many of the announced crowds were BULLSHIT......So without Zlatan and actual attendance numbers we would be averaging in the 11,000 to 12,000 a game.
     
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  11. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Maybe a whole section might be a good idea?
     
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  12. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I don't subscribe to that line of thinking. A lot of people that went to the Zlatan game would have ended up at a different one. Yes, he does pump up the numbers but not everyone there showed up just for him.

    EDIT: #HauptmanOut
     
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  13. chiladd

    chiladd Member+

    Mar 21, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    DeKalb County United has nicer training facilities.
    #HauptmanRaus
     
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  14. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If I recall, it was a pretty crappy day, 30's with snow, so I'll stick with my prediction that the crowd would have been around 11k.


    #HauptmanOut
     
  15. burningfire

    burningfire Member+

    May 15, 2009
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    #HauptmanOut
     
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  16. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
  17. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Read the article. Some food for thought.


    Couple of quick comments and factual corrections:

    According to my limited research (I asked my dad)...
    Great line!

    For those who would suggest that Reinsdorf, who's gained a reputation for being cheap especially when it came to Jordan...
    I have never heard anyone say that.

    When Jordan came back to the Bulls (after his first retirement), he had the highest contract in team sports history and made more than the rest of the team, through the "Larry Bird" rule.
    Reinsdorf was a whole lot of bad things, but cheap when it came to Michael Jordan was not one of them.

    Much like his inability to keep Jordan,...
    Reinsdorf did not have an "inability" to keep Michael Jordan. Jordan retired (for the second time).
    Sure, he came back for a third go around with Washington, but that was really nothing more than a nostalgia trip (also, he posted the lowest numbers of his career, he also made about 1/30th of what he made with the Bulls)

    "In the 1997-1998 season, Jordan made $33.1 million. It's still* the highest single-season NBA salary ever. At the time the salary cap was $26.9 million, and the average NBA team payroll was $32.7 million."
    *Note is was ONLY topped in 2017-2018 by LeBron James and Steph Curry.
    Further note, Jordan's salary in 1997-1998 would be about $49.7 million, adjusted for inflation.

    www.businessinsider.com/michael-jordans-1998-salary-lebron-2014-10

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highest-paid_NBA_players_by_season
    https://www.officialdata.org/1998-dollars-in-2017?amount=33100000
    http://www.spotrac.com/nba/washington-wizards/michael-jordan-8739/
     
  18. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Weird, wikipedia kept mentioning about how "Bulls fans blamed him and Krause for letting Jordan go."
     
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  19. Reinsdorf wasn't ever cheap the way Dollar Bill Wirtz was, but he never renegotiated a contract. He was very public about his unhappiness paying Jordan that kind of money.
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  20. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Well, Wikipedia is written by committee.
     
  21. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Wouldn't you be unhappy paying that kind of money? But he loved the rings and the notoriety.
     
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  22. lethargytartare

    lethargytartare Member+

    Oct 2, 2000
    Magrathea, Horsehead Nebula
    Club:
    Yeovil Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    yeah, but Bulls fans did blame Reinsdorf's cheapness for the end of that dynasty.

    I still think they're at least partly right (I'd posit the lion's share of actual blame lies with Krause's, Jackson's and Jordan's egos, and Reinsdorf's unflagging loyalty to Krause)
     
  23. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Your parenthetical is the truth.
     
  24. skinut

    skinut Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 25, 2000
    Castle Pines, CO (or often elsewhere on earth)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #Hauptmanout
     
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  25. loonixxx

    loonixxx Member+

    Chicago Red Stars
    Aug 28, 2004
    Soccer Limbo
    Club:
    Jagiellonia Bialystok SSA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This thread is closing in on 5 years since the original post was made.

    #HAUPTMANOUT
     
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