Glass Dragons Still Breathe Fire - The Gareth Bale Thread

Yes but that was all before last season when he was younger and in his prime - had just scored the winning goals in the CL final.
He is 30 years old right now, a bench player and his career outlook probably changed..whereas now, being closer to retirement, he may be prioritizing a fat pay check so he will probably do whatever it takes to not jeopardize that.

 

Stop with the facts. It's better to ignore them... after all they only get in the way.

Dude left the stadium after being subbed like four months ago and now that actually happened a season ago and he is closer to retirement at age 30, four months later.

 

But you are ignoring last season all together where he was benched and so far he’s not complained about it.

 

It is not. I thought you were referring to him wanting to leave which is what he said after we won the CL. That is what I am referring to.. his priorities may have changed now because the conditions and his situation is not the same to back then

 

"Back then" was a couple months ago.

Just stop dude.

 

Stop what.. you are butting in and probably don't have a clue what the argument or my stand is.
We have agreed that we lost the best opportunity to cash in on Bale, which was right after Kiev, that wasn’t a couple of months ago..
that is what I am referring to. It is not the same now.

 

If he refuses to leave even though it is made clear to him that he won't be a starter, I really cannot see how he would justify repeating those actions. Not that they were justifiable, but he would put himself in a very defenseless position.

 

Talk about hypocrisy. Aren't you the same one who loses it whenever somebody brings up Bale to point out your double standards?

Didn't you make it a point to say something like people who do that in your opinion have no point and can't properly defend their rationale when the bring up somoene who isn't part of the discussion?

So what does that say about you now?

 

You're in a public forum talking about "butting in". FOH.

If you wanted no one to "butt in" you should have taken the conversation private.

You didn't even realize @Zidane05 was referring to behavior Bale displayed late last season while you were going on and on about how he now realizes he isn't first choice from a season ago. Be serious.

 

You're projecting again..

Had that been Cristiano who threw fits leaving matches early you would be ripping him. Since it's Gareth Bale your tone has changed.

It's so ironic you say this yet you slaughtered Cristiano for his post CL final actions, yet seemed to not have the same anger toward Bale for his.

 

Well I have a different interpretation of “he does not accept a sub role”
One thing is throwing a tantrum and another one is actually doing something about it.. like he said that he would do after Kiev.
If Zidane decides to bench Kroos and freeze him what do you think would happen next season?
No top player wants to be benched (ask Isco under Solari), that is the reality, but to me not accepting is what Morata and James did and not what Bale has done so far.

 

I must have missed something. Did Bale officially say he doesn't want to be a sub, and asked to leave?

A player of his caliber will never smile when being benched, but I don't feel like he's being a terrible teammate either. He didn't insult anyone or things like that.

Many people are angry at him because he refuses to leave for a lower salary. (something most people would also refuse if they were in his shoes)

 

No, you're just warping reality.

You literally have disregarded actual events and made a determination based on nothing but what you feel. You aren't Gareth Bale so what you feel isn't important.

What we have are the facts. @Zidane05 laid out a history of them to support his case. What facts have you laid out to support yours?

 

I don't think Bale wants to stay as a sub, I remember reading some quotes from his manager (and I think he himself as well) when he got benched in certain games that they were complaining about it. Zidane will stay as the coach even if he wins nothing this year I think, he's not going to want to wait for him to get fired.

Personally I think he and his manager are playing it smart, so that the end product is that he gets to go to a team of his choosing for 'cheapish' and that we will be left paying a certain sum of his salary as well. Just so we can "finally" get him off the team list.

But we'll see what happens before the transfer period ends. Anything can happen with this one, but I'm going with my predicition above.

 

He hasn’t left yet and does not appear to be planning to do so.

 

I understand what you are saying, but when Bale has complained about a coach, a new coach was brought in. This is not the same as James and Morata who left because it was clear that neither Zidane or their competition were going anywhere.

Technically when he last complained about his playing time, Zidane quit and Bale was given all the playing time he could handle under the new coach (needless to say it was too much playing time and caused him to get injured).

I get your point that the circumstances have changed now and even Bale must realize the reality is that nobody wants him and nobody is going to agree to the contract that he has and he can't "top" himself at this point of his career so it makes little sense to go somewhere and start over (makes you kinda feel sorry for Ronaldo who has even less humility than Bale).

 

What does that have to do with anything?

Provide facts that support he has changed his mind and is okay with being a sub.

 

The original discussion was about if Bale would accept a bench role. None of this supports why he would.

In fact it supports why he expects to start and acts out when he doesn't or is subbed.