NSR: Give me your rested, your rich, privileged White Colombians yearning to post in soccer forums...

Discussion in 'Colombia' started by dapip, Oct 18, 2018.

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My parents/grandparents/great great great grandparents arrived:

  1. They were here when Columbus got lost and hit America

    3 vote(s)
    12.5%
  2. They arrived in the Mayflower

    2 vote(s)
    8.3%
  3. They came shackled and got to work in plantations at the sound of a whip

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. They arrived through Ellis Island between 1830 and 1950

    3 vote(s)
    12.5%
  5. They came here as a result of _______________ crisis

    9 vote(s)
    37.5%
  6. I'm the first one to move here from my country.

    7 vote(s)
    29.2%
  1. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
     
  2. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    We need to play less race politics if we want to win.

    I was at dinner with my wife in a nice restaurant. Saw a group of older liberals all white saying the would never vote for another white man. Then one said well no straight one anyone....

    Just because white men for the most part have it easier everywhere doesn’t mean they all have the same experience or are all evil frat boys who ruffie women.

    Then they notice me, my asian wife and our son. They said “o that is so nice, it was a good” mix!

    It’s like tone down your wokeness
     
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  3. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  4. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  5. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
     
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  6. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  7. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
     
  8. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
     
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  9. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  10. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia


    In case anyone miss the reference, Owens said that Hitler only wanted to Make Germany Great Again...

    Yeah, they're Nazis. And people that support them are too.
     
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  11. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  12. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  13. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  14. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  15. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I was having a similar discussion with my friend yesterday. He published a cartoon where people trampled in line for the welfare, while a job creator was offering jobs on an empty line. Even if you are liberal, that kind of poor shaming has permeated our culture so much, while we consider CEOs and other greedy people some sort of heroes and pretend that their success is not by design. We could make a more egalitarian society, but we have chosen to glorify the filthy rich and humiliate the needy. How Christian of us.
     
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  16. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  17. praxis.en

    praxis.en Member

    May 13, 2015
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    We are taught to believe that if you are poor its because there is something inherently wrong with you not because of the socioeconomic structures set in place..
     
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  18. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Not 100% true a lot has to do with motivation and family structure. $$$ has some to do with it but super rich are less motivated.

    The tax structure is a joke. The rates are 20k, 40k, 60k,80k and then 100k. It’s like um people make millions. Why does the tax rate stop at 100.

    The other issue is no limit to social programs. It shouldn’t be a generational thing. With minimum wage not being a liveable wage in high tax states many people prefer to not work and get free insurance, food and housing then work and not being able to afford that lifestyle.

    You have 2 parents who are hard working. That help you study and make you. Siblings that do as well it makes things a bit easier.

    I went to public school and I can say 70% of the school was on public assistance and most those kids grew up to be on it too. Then blame society and white people.

    Make good choices

    College .... don’t go to the 50k a year school if you don’t get mostly a full ride. Don’t go if you aren’t getting a high paying job. Don’t go if you don’t know what you want to do with your life. What is wrong with being an electrician or plumber they are real high paying jobs.
     
  19. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
     
  20. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  21. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    The "funniest" thing about these "Christians" is that they want to control every aspect of life, from dressing code to marriage and reproductive rights, then they'll get incensed if you tell them about Freedom of religion and point out to the Quran and the Sharia Law...
     
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  22. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    The "funniest" thing about these "Christians" is that they want to control every aspect of life, from dressing code to marriage and reproductive rights, then they'll get incensed if you tell them about Freedom of religion and point out to the Quran and the Sharia Law...
     
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  23. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    More that is you mention taxing the rich and helping the poor they get so angry

    It’s like did you skip over all the Jesus parts of the Bible?
     
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  24. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    It has to do with social and economic mobility, the US had relatively high mobility but since the 80s has been decreasing to the point it is almost at monarchical levels.

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    This is more poor shaming. A lot of working people is in social programs because a. they cannot afford to live without assistance, and b. because we have built a lot of working requirements into welfare.

    Or you have two parents or one parent that work 2 and 3 jobs, can't make ends meet and don't have time to help you with anything, not to mention that probably you will be shamed at school for getting food assistance and wearing raggedy clothes.

    Or shame the poor for being poor.

    So when you start to study you are required to know what you're going to get paid in 2 or 4 years? Or if you don't study, can you compete with Pete the Barista with the masters degree? True, a lot of kids make poor choices, but it is not as simple as they getting on a sick loan because they wanted to study some unprofitable career. College education has become too expensive and a bachelors degree is the minimum requirement for jobs that only pay 40k or 50k per year, so we as a society need to tackle both, our education inflation and stagnant salaries. Just for information purposes, here is an income vs tuition costs graph:

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  25. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    It has to do with social and economic mobility, the US had relatively high mobility but since the 80s has been decreasing to the point it is almost at monarchical levels.

    [​IMG]

    This is more poor shaming. A lot of working people is in social programs because a. they cannot afford to live without assistance, and b. because we have built a lot of working requirements into welfare.

    Or you have two parents or one parent that work 2 and 3 jobs, can't make ends meet and don't have time to help you with anything, not to mention that probably you will be shamed at school for getting food assistance and wearing raggedy clothes.

    Or shame the poor for being poor.

    So when you start to study you are required to know what you're going to get paid in 2 or 4 years? Or if you don't study, can you compete with Pete the Barista with the masters degree? True, a lot of kids make poor choices, but it is not as simple as they getting on a sick loan because they wanted to study some unprofitable career. College education has become too expensive and a bachelors degree is the minimum requirement for jobs that only pay 40k or 50k per year, so we as a society need to tackle both, our education inflation and stagnant salaries. Just for information purposes, here is an income vs tuition costs graph:

    [​IMG]
     
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