NSR: Give me your rested, your rich, privileged White Colombians yearning to post in soccer forums...

Discussion in 'Colombia' started by dapip, Oct 18, 2018.

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My parents/grandparents/great great great grandparents arrived:

  1. They were here when Columbus got lost and hit America

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  2. They arrived in the Mayflower

    1 vote(s)
    5.9%
  3. They came shackled and got to work in plantations at the sound of a whip

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  4. They arrived through Ellis Island between 1830 and 1950

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  5. They came here as a result of _______________ crisis

    7 vote(s)
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  6. I'm the first one to move here from my country.

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    35.3%
  1. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
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    Colombia
     
  2. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Yeah but we cant "politizar" tragedies because all "fake news journalist" creating news and conspiracy.........




    The problem with this fake news from right and left, is that people just prefered the version that accuse their other side.

    ELN twitter account was announce the atentado since days ago.....with metaphorics.........because "we hate government" dont mean eln and farc are holly spirits....this week that guy marquez was warning thoutgh videos. There is not only one bad......despite "my political ideology" prefer that only exist a bad one.

    For example the affirmation of this "journalist" is so irrepsonsable: .........yeah zone change dont exist.....just make politic with the tragedy.





    http://colombiacheck.com/chequeos/m...ota-antes-de-que-sucediera?platform=hootsuite

    Unluckily "these" questions, sometimes are based by random posts or sentences.....


    Last week was an extremist right wing "journalist" creating an story about santos and evo had acocunts in vaticano and used false documents as proof.

    https://colombiacheck.com/chequeos/la-historia-falsa-de-la-cuenta-de-santos-en-el-banco-del-vaticano

    Indeed is better to humillate your counterpart in politics that find the truth.



    Peace for the young people that died yesterday.
     
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  3. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    Millonarios Bogota
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  4. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    Millonarios Bogota
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    “Thoughts and Prayers” is the standard formulation from the NRA and the Republican politicians, after every mass shooting. Thanks to it, 40k people get killed with guns every year in the USA.

    While I agree with you that we have to be very careful with the news we follow and the blames we assign, it’s still perfectly valid to ask who benefits from tragic events and why some answers surface so fast, while others never see the light.

    Besides, we are not talking about a clean government that has not done horrible things to its own people. And with a president so extremely weak and unpopular, under the wing of a very blood thirsty wannabe dictator, the possibility of a false flag operation is completely plausible.
     
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  5. pepinointer

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    One are more interested in discredit the otherside ...that with the victimss..





     
  6. dapip

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  7. dapip

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    Cuestionar al gobierno no es ser pro ELN. Pensar que hay algo sospechoso en como se encontró de rápido al culpable del atentado no es decir que el ELN puede poner bombas.
     
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  8. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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  9. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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  10. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    Not racist:



    Low Energy:

     
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  11. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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  12. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
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    FC Internazionale Milano
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    Colombia
    Think Pibe and any of us who have a little Jewish blood that man Republicans really have a awful idea of both Jesus and Hitler.

    Hitler wanted to give the Jews free Healthcare and citizenship

    Jesus hates poor people, immigrants and those who society mistreats for being different

    Fact that they are the religious party is fking super scary

    On an off note. The Catholic Church where I grew up just announced that the amount they have paid since 1953 for people raped by priest. So crazy those dudes need to be shot in the dick !!!!
     
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  13. pepinointer

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    Millonarios Bogota
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    Colombia
    Una cosa es la incompetencia de autoridades..........unas cosas las teorias de conspiración para hacer politica de lado y lado. Que eso si preocupa

    El ELN se atribuyó la autoria del atentado en comunciado desde su pagina web.

    Depsues los negociadores de dicha guerrilla justificaron el atentado.

    No siempre darselas de conspirativos por mas que la versión ensucie a los enemigos politicos de uno es lo correcto.


    Entre otras cosas.

    el mas beneficiado con esto es el gobierno y uribe..................para hacer todas sus estupideces facistas,
     
  14. sidspaceman

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  15. dapip

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    Le cree uno a este tipo o a la fiscalia?

     
  16. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
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    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Venezuela has 2 presidents right now. Russia is backing one of them...... and he won’t step down.....

    Let’s see how this plays out in 2019 and 2022 when trump refuses to leave
     
  17. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    1. ELN ya se atribuyó los hechos mediante comunicado. de su pagina web. Lo puedes revisar asi te parezca fascinante la teoria de conspiración.

    2. Los negociadores lo aceptaron y justificaron el atentado. Tambien hay que revisar eso, no solo quedarte con la noticia que hacen eco de auto bomba....

    3. El personaje tiene antecedentes. El tipo acepta la llamada interceptada por la que lo detuvieron en la que hizo "el chiste" ..............Lo mas valido que al man lo investigan. por eso. La misma hija hablo de los antecedentes........

    4. Pues son dos versiones......una esta respaldad por una comunicación (inmediata a los hechos y se hace referencia) y la otra la versión de defensa de un implicado.

    5. Puede que sea inocente y este diciendo verdad. Pero como minimo merece investigación por el audio y sus antecedentes.



    No por que la versión sea en contra de la ideologia politica de uno debe ser cierta........
     
  18. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
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    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    If the Colombian government makes another deal with a terrorist group what is to stop the 3rd group?
     
  19. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    Millonarios Bogota
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    Colombia
    1. The FARC are not "terrorists" in the sense that the war in Colombia was recognized as an internal conflict and FARCs were deemed rebels or informal army.

    2. The Peace Process was successful, meaning that Colombia is now seeing a lot less casualties and that there was finally some government presence in former conflict zones. The process was supported internationally and followed an established protocol.

    3. There are no other significant rebel groups besides ELN. True, the attack puts the negotiations with them in standby, but that doesn't mean that all of the sudden more armed groups are going to pop-up and ask for the same treatment.
     
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  20. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

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    FC Internazionale Milano
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    Colombia
    What it a 3rd group comes to be. They start bombing people again

    You shouldn’t deal with terrorist and much less give them seats of power after 60 years of fking your country over hard in the ass with 0 lube. Then expect others to be like well it worked for them!!! Let me do the same thing.
     
  21. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    Millonarios Bogota
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    That's is the "I saw it in a movie" version of events. That's a movie slogan that tough guys (almost always portrayed by white Americans) mutter when the softie in the plot tells that there is a possible negotiated exit to the situation. Please don't use that kind of approach to real life events. Things don't work like in the movies for the most part.

    Conflict in Colombia has going on for about 70 years and the original cause was government violence against the opposition. Most of the killing during 7 decades was done by the government or the paramilitary (supported by government), and every time that a guerrilla negotiated their armistice, they were killed systematically after they joined the civil population.

    It is horrific that someone reverts to bombing civilians or other innocent people, but it is not like the guerrilla spawned out of thin air, and like if a group of teenagers wanted XBoxes for everybody would start sending explosives everywhere.

    Also, by giving the former combatants a place in congress, they ensure that the causes that they advocated for have a political audience. It is not like they were given a lot of positions and all of the sudden they can steer Colombia's government; no, they have a very very low voice that more or less shows that is better to be part of the democracy, than to try to fight it with acts of violence.
     
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  22. dapip

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  23. sidspaceman

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  24. sidspaceman

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