German Youth Discussion Thread Vol. IV

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by MatthausSammer, Sep 4, 2017.

  1. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    U call it regular lol

    20 games a season I thought I mention the definition of “regular” up there
     
  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    your the guy who is pro school getting in the way of pro careers,,,
     
  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    no commenting joke about your they'll be lucky to play 10 1BL games in their careers.
     
  4. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Unless Bayern get him go. Don’t think next 3 years, 20 games a season is realistic

    2001 Asta is sure thing , if there is a second player then OBM
     
  5. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    you used to be a big D.Otto fan. You don't rate him anymore?
     
  6. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Not Itter, but I said majority.

    Like Goller , Kubler n co. Remember Davide Itter was rated highly too lol by “reports” from Bild n Sportbuzzer n Fupa lol

    Willl be surprised if Davide got more than 10 career 1BL appearances
     
  7. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    2000-2002 ? Are u nuts? Lol time to take your paranoia disorder pills lol

    I m cool now, I want German talents to fail badly now. So that the alarm will ring

    Next 3 years, I want more English n French kids in BL, to make the German kids feeling ashamed of themselves

    They aren’t better than Norwegian or Greek kids
     
  8. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    not really D.Itter was never as rated as his twin brother. His current issue is that Wolfsburg have 3 RBs, no space whatsoever, thats another thing to always take account a lot of players are just born in the wrong time. By the time they are done with U19, there are already too many players in same position. Doesn't mean anything about their qualities or lack of.

    Goller tbf was also publicly praised by Tedesco and teammates and Tedesco more than once.
     
  9. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Well talent speaks. We have major success in youth development before

    Kids all needed to take Abitur. Why shouldn’t the kids do so nowadays

    Klinsmann needs to go to school, then training then helping out family bakery business

    If u wanna be pro, it’s a difficult route anyway
     
  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    dude not every post is aimed at your 2000-2002 bit. You always say 99 suck anyways.

    you seriously aren't a real fan if you want our players to flop. And pretty disgusting view why should they feel ashamed? Instead most blame is on clubs training them and dfb.
     
  11. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    because now clubs are impatient as hell that's the difference times have changed.

    and even Ricken said that bad optimization between training and school is one big negative for German kids vs foreign kids.
     
  12. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    No his issue is , he’s very bad lol

    GL Itter, will play more than his bro . But I doubt he will be a 20+ games per 1BL season type player UNLESS he works very hard. Like very hard

    I heard so many times from pro that they think he was always being overhyped. I m still waiting for a permission to disclose that message

    Some other talents that are overhyped are there too. Some names will make us feel sad
     
  13. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I know Jojo Eggestein myself

    I can tell u that even himself is pro Abitur

    And a normal person should. Maybe u think German kids shouldn’t get educated from 4 and started full time football at 5 is better

    No. Education makes one mature

    When 2008-2009 we won all the youth trophies , kids needed Abitur too.... it’s all excuses
     
  14. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    There are many excuses but the fact is

    We are no better than Serbian, Norwegian, Danish n Greek in youth development nowadays. And those populations ... u can’t find excuses anymore

    So yea, they better look from Portugal Spain England France Belgium n Holland
     
  15. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #5990 Karl-Heinz Riedle, Mar 23, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2019
    I m good friend with Eggestein. We had dinner not long ago

    He told me some players are hyped by media and he doesn’t even think they are that good. He mentioned some names from the DFB u20 n u21 but I won’t tell who they are

    A Nd we are talking about some media stars , who have good reports n media stories lol

    Like coaches rate this talent or he’s given a contract soon. But when he’s never given playing time or can’t even make the bench . U know these media stories are

    1) made up by papers because they got nothing to write. Bild, Welt, Speigel, Sportbuzzer the least credible

    2) Agents game

    Cyrill Akono’s interest from Werder Bremen, Hoffenheim n co... never really happened. Apparently no offer as well
     
  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    dude in 2008-2009 there wasn't as much of this buying or wanting to buy a ton of foreign youngsters.
     
  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Akono scored against more than one 1BL in friendlies so the stories are more about him being scouted. He's playing his 1st real pro season this season and Metzelder said that he's not going anywhere anyways he has a contract and they don't want to lose a talent.

    said any discussion about Akono possibly leaving will happen min in Summer.
     
  18. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    It’s only because we were producing top talents at that time
     
  19. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    U don’t wanna know what they said about Akono

    Scoring a few goals is ok. But he has real issue In his game

    Of coz he can improve but some said some of his weaknesses can’t be improved n won’t play much in 1BL

    He shouldn’t move to 1BL until he consistently prove himself in Munster. He needs to play regularly first
     
  20. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Always Always Always said the same

    I actually posted My Email to Kuntz n his reply here before

    Kuntz talke to clubs n clubs think if they have good domestic talents they won’t buy

    If they don’t feel like they have top prospects or elite talent, they have to buy elsewhere

    So it’s all on the players n talent level . That’s what Kuntz told me n I posted his email here before

    If U produce Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Pique, Puyol... all they have to buy is ur backup.

    Like Beyer, if Gladbach is convinced with him, they didn’t buy more CB/RB this off season

    They didn’t buy another to replace Arne Maier;

    If clubs don’t rate a player, of coz it’s another story
     
  21. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Logic is completely wrong

    Abitur is always there but we had age groups like 1988/1989/1992/1995/1996 (also good results) which we produced players which win tournaments after tournaments

    They won n achieve, there are some very very promising talents so clubs are convinced the playerS are good enough

    Now, we aren’t winning Anything, u can’t blame on Abitur. U can blame anything else (like u do everyday lol) but Abitur has nothing to do with talent level. It’s bull from Ricken. How to handle time b pressure is also part of talent.

    Solving problems is also part of talent , Tuchel said that too


    Because we kept losing nowadays in youth games, so clubs do wonder are we that bad nowadays. And maybe they dont see elite talent or players so they need to look elsewhere

    If u are producing Messi, Pedro, Insiesta, Busquest, Xavi, Puyol, Pique year by year, trust me they will only look for backups


    The problem Goes back to: why Germany cant produce many elite talents.

    If we start winnin n producing top talents like Sane, Gnabry, Sule, Stark, Goretzka, Kimmich n co. When we win again people will think we are good enough n start to be convinced

    We aren’t producing good enough players, of coz it’s vulnerable

    In many U17/U19, our players need to compete with other countries 16-18 year olds. All unproven, it why are the Germans always lost?

    Because the domestic players aren’t motivated enough
     
  22. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
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  23. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
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  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    hope he makes it seemed to have done well before the Christmas shenanigans which made Willem II dump Avdijaj.

    Burnic's great goal vs Portugal.
     
  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Ache scores his 2nd of the season in a 1-0 win. Scoring winning goal in 2 consecutive seasons.


    good for him after long term injury. Team is headed for promotion playoffs.
     
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