German nats suffer huge tragedy

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Red Card, Nov 10, 2009.

  1. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. Pass-n-Go

    Pass-n-Go Member+

    Jul 5, 2008
    Wow. Just wow. Condolences to his family.
     
  3. irish56

    irish56 Member+

    Oct 30, 2006
    indy
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This must be really tough on Dolo.
     
  4. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Man, his poor wife. First they lose a daughter then this.
     
  5. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Seriously.

    First Charlie, then this.

    I know it seems trivial right now, but as the captain at Hanover I wonder if he'll bail out of the Slovakia camp to go be with his club teammates.
     
  6. aila76

    aila76 Member

    Dec 10, 2005
    Auburn, NY
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is truly terrible news. I would just add, about mental illness being the "incurable" illness - that's not really the case. Which isn't to say anything neccessarily could have been done to prevent this, but one of the problems as far as treating mental illness is the stigma attached to it, wherein people don't neccessarily realise that it's just another form of sickness which has the potential to be cured like most disease. Most forms of mental illness are at least treatable. What makes suicide so terrible (other than the obvious) is it's very difficult to see warning signs beforehand if the person doesn't want you to. It's a terrible shock and a tragedy for all of his family and friends.
     
  7. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    I heard about this early today. Sad, sad, sad...
     
  8. Donofan_10

    Donofan_10 Red Card

    Aug 20, 2009
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    this is really sad
     
  9. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As USMNT fans, let's all remember to send our best wishes to the German Federation and the Enke family
     
  10. Asprilla9

    Asprilla9 Member

    Dec 15, 2000
    Beaverton, OR
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Condolences
     
  11. Prime Time

    Prime Time Member

    May 1, 2004
    South Florida
    Seconded. RIP Enke.
     
  12. bltleo

    bltleo Member+

    Jan 5, 2003
    GERMANY
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    this is sad story...tragedy for the whole German soccer..
    thanks US fans that you also opened this thread and remembered ENKE.

    your friend
    bltleo

    News:
    from Spiegel:
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,660579,00.html

    He was seen as the favorite to start in goal for Germany at the World Cup in South Africa in 2010. But on Tuesday evening, Robert Enke took his own life.

    He was one of Germany's best goalkeepers. But now, Robert Enke is dead. The 32-year-old national team player took his own life on Tuesday evening at a train crossing near Hanover, as his friend and advisor Jörg Neblung confirmed late Tuesday.


    "I can confirm that it was a case of suicide. Robert killed himself just before 6 p.m.," Neblung said in a short statement.
     
  13. SamsArmySam

    SamsArmySam Member+

    Apr 13, 2001
    Minneapolis, MN
    A soccer teammate of mine -- and a wonderful human being -- killed himself 11 years ago when one of his lows from depression went a little too low. I often think of him before I take the field in my rec league games as a way to honor his life. I am here and have the opportunity to enjoy this day and play in this game. Carpe diem.

    A tragedy for Germany. RIP Enke.
     
  14. StillKickin

    StillKickin Member+

    Austin FC
    Dec 17, 2002
    Texas
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is so incredibly sad.

    Heartfelt condolences to his wife and daughter, family, friends and teammates.
     
  15. Crazy_Yank

    Crazy_Yank Member

    Jan 8, 2001
    Matamoros, Mexico
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Obviously I didn't know Enke personally, but I would think he would want Cherundolo to stay with his national team and keep playing.
     
  16. DCUPopeAndLillyFan

    Apr 20, 2000
    Colorado
    After the Davies accident, I was hoping to see a thread on this here. His poor widow after the baby and this - hopefully having all of Germany to lean on for support will help.

    For US related stuff, condolences to 'Dolo. I was also struck by the number of previous cases of depression altering the lives and careers of German footballers - is/has anything like that been an issue within the US ranks?
     
  17. cswan

    cswan Member

    May 13, 1999
    West Palm Beach, FL
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. Swami

    Swami Member

    Mar 5, 2005
    What an incredibly sad story this is. My heart goes out to Enke's family.

    As a previous poster alluded to, depression is an insidious disease of the mind just as there are diseases of other organs. Unfortunately, however, there is a stigma for those that have this disease to the point that they will not seek or delay treatment or will go to great lengths to hide their situation. In the better of these situations, time, careers and relationships are lost. In the worst of these, young lives like Enke's are lost.

    Often, the family members like Enke's wife have it the hardest. While he's alive, she may have to deal with someone who is entirely unlike the person she once knew. The tragedy becomes only more sick subsequent to his passing.

    There should be a thoughtful public campaign to educate the public and eradicate the prejudice associated with an organ attacking disease like any other.
     
  19. bltleo

    bltleo Member+

    Jan 5, 2003
    GERMANY
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    it is sad story...i can not watch soccer right now..it makes me only sad..
    this week i have a break from soccer...
    the friendly game of Germany against Chile was cancelled...
    it is good so..
    i have never thought that depression is such a bad thing....´
    well there is an example of Deisler who also suffered and had depression..but he said it
    in the public and stopped to play soccer...he talked about his problem in the public..
    about Enke we have no idea that he had a depression..
     
  20. smithfan

    smithfan Member+

    Aug 14, 2005
    Waimoana
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    And what happened afterwards? Deisler was accused of being whiny (even Beckenbauer said it), girlish, gay. Some teammates gave him female names. A famous politician called him a "losing deal" shortly after he ran away and went to a hospital. Comedians made fun of him. Maybe at least that will change after this tragedy.
     
  21. Adam Zebrowski

    Adam Zebrowski New Member

    May 28, 1999
    there are medications which can deal with the chemical causes of mental stress, and i would suspect any national team has a phyciatrist on staff...

    enke did have abnormal stress in his life, so i would hope the federation would have been looking after him as a person, NOT just as a player..

    the tragedy isn't about german soccer, but the person...
     
  22. smithfan

    smithfan Member+

    Aug 14, 2005
    Waimoana
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  23. Adam Zebrowski

    Adam Zebrowski New Member

    May 28, 1999
    manic depression can have a lot of happy phases...

    i don't know the extent a team gets involved in the mental affairs of a person, but in american sport, i do know of at least ONE instance of an athlete being offered significant psychiatric help, his name is shawn andrews, who was a top notch player in american football, who had played the game his whole life because he was good, not because he liked it...

    it became evident to the eagles, andrews behavior was not healthy and normal, so they provide the best help they could...

    i suspect when BIG money enters any equation, a team should be looking for health, both mental and physical of it's employees...
     
  24. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    This is truly a tragic situation. Condolences to his family and the German National Team.

    I have been following the story a bit on the new sites, as well as on BS, and I have to say that it is heartening to see that people are looking for positives to come out of this sad, sad event.
     
  25. Artesian

    Artesian New Member

    Nov 8, 2008
    The Evergreen State
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eff soccer. I weep and pray for his wife, family, friends and fans. I hope and pray he's found the peace he couldn't find here. Sometimes there are no answers, and all we can do is to say, no SCREAM! screw this pathetic world! Weep, mourn, question, but please God help us find the strength somehow to carry on! All of us.
     

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