German Coaches Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Epitome990, Nov 5, 2016.

  1. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    I will never forgive Tuchel for squandering BVB's best chance of winning the Europa League which was the 2015-16 season, being knocked out by one of the worst Liverpool sides ever, not to mention he refused to challenge Bayern domestically in his first season with BVB despite having the team to do so, all because he has a serious case of hero worship regarding Guardiola.
     
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  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    another 2-1 win and now in 6th place and only 2 pts off the 1st place.
     
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  3. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
  4. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Losing today is a fireable offence for Heiko Herrlich. His team is just not performing good enough and have embarrassed themselves on the Europa stage against Zurich.
     
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  5. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
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  6. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    German football seems to be downwards trending between NT, coaches, GK etc.
     
  8. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Löw internationally, Tuchel in Europe, and Karius as GK are what's giving Germany the worst possible reputation.

    How I'm categorizing the situation of notable German coaches so far this season right now:

    Positive: Klopp, Hecking, Kohfeldt, Kuntz, Wormuth

    Neutral: Tuchel (good in the east Ligue 1 but poor in CL), Rangnick, Nagelsmann, Baum, Labbadia, Streich, Schwarz, Farke

    Negative: Löw, Herrlich, Köllner, Breitenreiter, Tedesco, David Wagner, Skibbe, Roger Schmidt

    Too soon to tell: Weinzierl, Hannes Wolf
     
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  9. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
     
  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Hannes Wolf's 1st game in charge ends as 10 men Hamburg won 1-0.
     
  11. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
     
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  12. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Farke's Norwich with another win this time 1-0.

    move to 3rd place and still only 2 pts behind 1st place.

    good recent trend for the club after a not so great start to the season.
     
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  13. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Wagner's Huddersfield sink to dead last in the EPL after a 0-3 loss to Watford. They're still winless after 10 match days. I see them definitely relegating this season
     
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  14. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Also downwards trending for strikers too unless things turn around soon
     
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  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I feel like that trend won't change for awhile though. Still not too bad for the weekend that Petersen, Holer, Waldschmidt, Ginczek all scoring and Stindl drawing a PK.

    but yeah doesn't look bright with the current players. And in terms of emerging young strikers we are still seeing barely any chances for them whether in 1BL or 2BL. The lack of opportunities is the biggest issue. So plenty of strikers are stuck in the reserves. Some it feels like no matter what they do in RL they still won't get chances in 1BL or 2BL. Others will never get chances unless injuries happen to 1st team players.

    you remember how Knoll said that Hamburg wanted to extend his contract although had 0 plans with him. Even though he won the RL Nord top scorer as a 20 year old scoring over 20 goals last season.

    there are more 99-00 German striker options although 99s are all currently reserve players and 00 mostly still in U19.
     
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  16. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Supposedly,

    99 have four decent striker prospects in David Otto, Florian Kruger, Wintzheimer and David Nieland. All the progressed has been delayed due to different reasons

    2000 they have a few: Arp and Jesaja Herrmann (I know he isn’t playing well this season) are two better talents, then u have Hottmann, Maurice Malone, Cyrill Akono and Luc Ihorst.
    Evina, Burkardt And Kühn are very good prospects too but they might develop as wingers.

    2001 there simply isn’t too any top striker prospect. Can have a look at Lenn Jastremski from Wolfsburg or Jabez Makanda from Frankfurt. But the latter is still adapting. Bleart Dautaj has become a lost talent

    2002 is a big year for strikers: Ware Pakia, Kerim Adeyemi And Nick Woltemade (already 196cm) are three top striker prospects in the age group. Then u have Jan Thielmann, Luis Hartwig, Maurice Kramny, Moritz Schweinstetter And Dennis Borkowski who are also decent prospects. Borkowski And Thielmann are versatile enough to play other positions, and might develop as midfielders in the future though.

    2003 we have Emrehan Gedikli, who is arguably the best striker prospect in the country after Fiete Arp. Lasse Gunther is also another interesting player

    2004.. u just can’t ignore Youssoufa Moukoko And Lucas Copado
     
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  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    99-Kiprit (can still end up with Turkey) and Musel aren't too bad either and both seem rated by their clubs. Wintzheimer seems to be struggling badly in RL. Seems like there are a ton of 99s who have done better than him.
    00-Evina, Burkardt, and Kuhn have basically already developed into wingers. When Kuhn plays striker, he's basically a false 9. That's always been the issue from youth level to higher level. Attacking players don't always keep their positions. Even someone like Robin Kehr also seems to be playing winger over striker.
    01-One issue with this lot is that the 00 strikers still dominate majority of teams because it's their last U19 season. So 01 are basically bench players.Next season could be a better indicator for them.
    02-Hummel seem to have fallen off as Kramny has taken his spot, both Stuttgart boys.
    03-some 03 who are playing in U17 this season Schmid, Durmushan, Klein, Sieb (more SS but could always become a striker). Of course there will be more during the season who play U17 and especially next season which will be the last in U17 for 03s. So the 03s playing U16 this season will show up next season.


    curious to see the dev of German duals that either don't play for Germany or likely headed towards another country. Guys like Aydinel, Tekin, Asllani etc.

    Although now seems like we are taking over an unrelated thread to discuss something that fits Youth thread or striker thread.:p
     
  18. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Weinzierl has a 0-8 goal differential in his first 2 matches in charge at Stuttgart which of course both resulted in losses.

    Still early days as he inherited a mess to begin with. However, a bad campaign at the end of the season could put him at risk of being another Mirko Slomka kind of situation which sees him being irrelevant in the coaching scene altogether.
     
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  19. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Slomka was rumored to have been spotted in Gelsenkirchen...potential replacement for Tedesco? Lol
     
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  20. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
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  21. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Farke's Norwich with a big 4-0 win away at Sheffield Wednesday. With this victory they also move into first place in the English Championship
     
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  22. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
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  23. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    although sad part is even if Norwich make EPL which would be a massive accomplishment they seem like Huddersfield 2.0.
     
  24. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Zorniger's Brondby continue their downward spiral and are now 9th place in the Danish Superliga. They've only won once in their last 8 match days. I expect Zorniger to get sacked this season.
     
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  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany

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