Future of RSL Academy Territory

Discussion in 'Real Salt Lake' started by Todorojo, Apr 26, 2017.

  1. DrownedElf

    DrownedElf Member+

    Jul 5, 2010
    Ogden
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fair enough. I don't play attention to baseball at all, so I didn't realize there were a number of players from there. That still seems to be a somewhat small list though.
     
  2. RoyalNonesuch

    RoyalNonesuch Member+

    May 10, 2009
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, the academies are the key. DLH is a meddling mess of an owner, but his huge investments in ground-up talent developments are visionary and may be something we laud for decades.
     
  3. ajr_RSL

    ajr_RSL Member

    Sep 26, 2007
    Mesa, Az
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Brooks is from The PHX area. Paradise Valley if I'm not mistaken
     
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  4. PattysCow

    PattysCow Member+

    Apr 4, 2010
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Since this got bumped anyway, I think it's safe to say that this bid looks pretty damn good.
     
  5. El-ahrairah

    El-ahrairah Member+

    Sep 20, 2004
    Wanker County
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which is why DLH should hold out for something of equal value if we are going to loose any of our territory in Phoenix, including our international spot that got traded to Colorado.
     
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  6. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS has let RSL suck it on the lost international slot for 12 years, I don't think they give a flip about what we want for losing the AZ academy territory.

    Besides, DLH and MLS would get $150 million from Phoenix investors, last thing they care about are the 3 players we got out of the state.
     
  7. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Considering that the academy seems to be a business priority in DLH's vision of the organization, I think he will be a bulldog in negotiating with the league on this aspect.
     
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  8. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sure he will at least require compensation for all he's spent on RSL-AZ. Probably with interest. And get youth development rights for other areas, like Nevada, Wyoming, maybe something further afield.
     
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  9. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did I mention $150+ million dollar franchise fee? I'm sure I did...
     
  10. Todorojo

    Todorojo Member

    Oct 27, 2008
    South Weber, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Getting split 24 different ways. That starts to diminish it some from DLH's eyes.
     
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  11. El-ahrairah

    El-ahrairah Member+

    Sep 20, 2004
    Wanker County
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does the franchise fee get split directly between the clubs or does it go into the First National Bank of Garberbux to be distributed as Big Daddy Don sees fit? $150 million split 24 ways turn out to be (mathmagically) 6.25 million per club which isn't a small amount, but if it goes into the the First National Bank of Garberbux, RSL may only see 300k of TAM or some other pittance.

    So, if DLH has the ability, hold up allowing Phoenix into the league until RSL gets something worthwhile in return.
     
  12. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's fine they'll just raise to $200 million.

    Losing AZ for $9 million ain't bad.
     
  13. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's to the owners as compensation for a smaller share of SUM.
     
  14. PattysCow

    PattysCow Member+

    Apr 4, 2010
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    I'm sure DLH will gladly take the money, but he is a very savvy businessman, so I definitely expect him to get as many concessions as possible.
     
  15. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry for the large amounts of snark in this thread. I just feel the brain trust doesn't see the AZ territory as that important.

    I also think with the Herriman project, RSL will do far more (successful) in-state and non-claimed territory recruiting.
     
  16. El-ahrairah

    El-ahrairah Member+

    Sep 20, 2004
    Wanker County
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is probably true (maybe), but why pass up a chance to get something worthwhile in return (like our international slot from Colorado)?

    Even if we think the Herriman project is the way of the future, we don't want to help out othger teams by giving up anything that could be used against us in the future.
     
  17. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    RSL could sign Messi and win Champions League and MLS still won't give back that slot. Damn you Pastorino!
     
  18. 2nd Mouse

    2nd Mouse Member+

    Apr 11, 2012
    Salt Lake City, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. El-ahrairah

    El-ahrairah Member+

    Sep 20, 2004
    Wanker County
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  20. Taragui

    Taragui Member+

    Aug 13, 2006
    Northern Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
     
  21. GoRSL

    GoRSL Member+

    Jan 7, 2013
    47.615587, -122.200340
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Speaking of future of RSL Academy...they did a big tour for team execs and media today. A few choice pics - which in concept look pretty cool (even if it is still a big bunch of dirt fields and mostly unenclosed spaces).



     
  22. RoyalNonesuch

    RoyalNonesuch Member+

    May 10, 2009
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Still don't get how SI's Grant Wahl always has RSL near the bottom of the "ambition ratings" he coughs up. Some bias or something.
     
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  23. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He moved us up this year. We were #17 in 2016, and all the way up to #12 in 2017. He says:

    "Confession: I ranked RSL too low last year. It’s a tough call. Based on people I talk to, this is one of the cheapest teams in the league on a day-to-day basis. And yet the infrastructure investment is truly impressive, headed by a new $50 million training facility that’s set to open later this year and a nine-year-old, $110 million stadium (built with a public/private partnership) that has served the club well. The youth academy has always been strong, and Designated Player spending has also increased this season, led by the signing (and transfer fee) of playmaker Albert Rusnak."
     
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  24. RoyalNonesuch

    RoyalNonesuch Member+

    May 10, 2009
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ******** him. He's still ridiculously off given the criteria he's published.
     
  25. GoRSL

    GoRSL Member+

    Jan 7, 2013
    47.615587, -122.200340
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Agreed...he's basically overweighting on DPs and salaries. Academy, long-term investment - not so ambitious. It's like saying hunters are better than ranchers or farmers.
     
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