FIFA Club World Cup: UAE 2017 [R]

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Nico Limmat, Nov 30, 2017.

  1. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    That's fine. I am not sure who hyped Gremio or our league to you then. The reality is different. Most analysts have been criticizing the level of football being played in the domestic league for the past few years.
     
  2. pogoss

    pogoss Member

    Wydad Casablanca
    Morocco
    Jan 15, 2017
    Japan
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Morocco
    I know mate, I was saying that even before the game. As I said I'm not into the hype, I was just trying to explain where it comes from.
    In a Moroccan football forum and another one based in France I was telling people that it won't be as easy for Gremio as they expect. I watched the last Libertadores games and I wasn't impressed by Gremio as a team.
     
  3. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Then those people are just completely unaware of reality. That's a very uninformed opinion. Brazil's NT has really very little to do with the quality of the domestic league in Brazil. Another issue I haven't mentioned is that Brazil has many teams that are fairly big profile. We don't have 2-3 top teams that hog most of the talent in the country. We don't really have "super teams".
     
  4. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    If you're a soccer purist (i.e., old man from way before corporate interests and private investment funds starting buying clubs, back when many of the players were homegrown), the competition to follow is the Libertadores.
     
  5. pogoss

    pogoss Member

    Wydad Casablanca
    Morocco
    Jan 15, 2017
    Japan
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Morocco
    by definition a hype isn't the reality, it's an exaggeration. Football fans usually follow a couple of leagues and international competitions so they can only build their image of a league they don't follow from NT, medias and international club competitions.
    Brazil having a legendary NT in football history + the number of times we hear a Brazilian team won the Libertadores (5 times out of the 10 past) + the number of players in Europe coming from Brazil are building a strong reputation for the Brazilian league.
    If you add the market value comparison most outsiders will expect Gremio to be 1 division stronger than Pachuca especially if they have never seen a game of both teams before.
     
  6. pogoss

    pogoss Member

    Wydad Casablanca
    Morocco
    Jan 15, 2017
    Japan
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Morocco
    I wish I had time to follow it more, this year I only watched from the 1/2 finals.
     
  7. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Yeah, and they are wrong on all fronts. So I hope I explained it clearly and it makes sense.

    Plus, the number of players in Europe means they are not playing in Brazil. Players like Dani Alves, Marquinhos, Marcelo, Coutinho, left Brazil either very young or were even unknown.
     
  8. MVP#3

    MVP#3 Member

    Mar 1, 2012
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United Arab Emirates
    #133 MVP#3, Dec 13, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2017
    & I can say what measure you used to say Al Ain is the most popular making it far in the AFC CL ? and Al Jazira easily top 3? sorry but you were totally off on that btw Ahmed Khalil wants out from the club not sure if he is really injured or its a Coutinho act, some say he will go to China
     
  9. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What time of year do you propose that happen? UEFA clubs aren't going to want to play 4 games in 3 countries (2 at home, 1 away in a Semifinal, and 1 away in a Final) in the middle of their season.
     
  10. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Currently at the airport with no means to watch. Al Jazira take the lead? :eek:
     
  11. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Romarinho is a legend.
     
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  12. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The betting odds from Intertops think Real Madrid is more likely to win while down 1-0 than before the game started.
     
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  13. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    941000587683999744 is not a valid tweet id
     
  14. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Probably because Al-Jazira looked completely impotent for the whole first half, except for the goal.
     
  16. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
     
  17. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey @Nico Limmat remember when UEFA was maintaining a ridiculously long shutout streak in this tournament? :D
     
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  18. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Nobody shuts down Romarinho.
     
  19. zahzah

    zahzah Member+

    Jun 27, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Go! BTW The defending on the first goal was atrocious. Best from UEFA? LOL.

    Real Madrid is in real crisis.
     
  20. verde-rubro

    verde-rubro Member+

    C.S.Maritimo + Liverpool FC
    Portugal
    Jan 15, 2005
    LONDON
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    41' Romarinho 1 - 0

    53' 1 - 1 Cristiano Ronaldo

    81' 1 - 2 Gareth Bale
     
  21. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    Didn't even realize this competition was taking place until today... so Europe v South America again. Ho hum.
     
  22. zahzah

    zahzah Member+

    Jun 27, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    I meant goal!
    Still dissapointing performance and the goal conceded was atrociously defended.
     
  23. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Remarkable performance by home team goalie, I don't remember seeing something like that.
     
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  24. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    Both Kashima and these guys have something to tell their grandchildren. The blown opportunity on the breakaway was horrendous.

    Let's see what odds Bwin puts on the Final. With RM's lackluster finishing, I'd say only a 3-1 favorite on Saturday.

    Pachuca at 1.1-1 IMO. It's all up for grabs.
     
  25. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I'm gonna go out on the limb and say much higher than that. Oddmakers always dare people to bet against Madrid and Barcelona.
     

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