FC Salzburg vs Liverpool FC - CL - Dec 10 [R]

I'm going to watch the EL just because of them they are great to watch

 

Bobby well out of form for the past month or so.

 

I went to check the starting lineup only to find out that the game was over.

 

I've only just finished the match. Couple of things. Haarland should have received a yellow card for that ridiculous haircut. My god that was an eyesore.

Salzburg came on looking like CL contenders. Ran out of ideas and ended up looking like Bournemouth!

I wanted to kick Mo Salah's arse. Or at least take him off and put Origi on earlier. Then he scored that ridiculess goal.

Two goals down to their keeper.

We should have had at least 4 prolly 5 goals.

I'll calm down soon. Mrs Scouse took Ringo into the bedroom. He thought I was calling him F***** Salah and got upset.

 

ha.

 

Right back at ya Salzburg - classy club, best of luck in the Eurpopa League (and I mean that seriously - I hope they do well, they are quality!)

 

I agree, was calling for him to be subbed off about 15 mins before he was.

 

• Liverpool have progressed from all three of their Champions League group stages under Jurgen Klopp. They had been knocked out at this stage in their previous two Champions League campaigns before his arrival.
• Salzburg's 16 goals is the most scored by a side to be eliminated from their Champions League group since Chelsea in 2012-13 (also 16).
• Liverpool kept a clean sheet in an away Champions League game for the first time in 11 matches, having conceded 18 goals in their previous 10.
• Mohamed Salah has been involved in 27 Champions League goals for Liverpool (19 goals, eight assists) - only Lionel Messi (28) has been involved in more since the Egyptian joined the Reds in 2017.

 

Tonight was the first time Salah has scored a right-footed goal outside the penalty area since arriving in Europe in 2012.

 

Bobby has always been one of those players who you only notice when he is scoring or assisting. Most of his other work goes unnoticed.

While it is true that he only has 1 goal and 1 assist in his last 13 games, the team has not been struggling for chances and had regularly been dominating possession, much of it in the opposition half. He plays a big part in that. Despite coming off in the 74th minute he had the fourth most passes for our side (a stat almost always dominated by defenders and midfielders), and had as many tackles as Keita and more than anyone else in the team. If we want to allow players like Keita and Ox to regularly attack from midfield, then he sometimes has to position himself in a way to retake possession if it is lost.

Had Salah and Mane been more clinical he'd be walking away with a few assists this game. The team is centred around getting the best out of Mane and Salah, Bobby plays a big role in that. They will get all the plaudits, but it is not down to him playing poorly.

 

he's off form. period. happens to all players.

if it was me, I would have taken him off, putting Naby as Nbr 10 and Ox to replace Naby.

 

Couldn’t watch this live, just watched the highlights. So happy to see Naby up and going. Boy Mo hates an easy goal don’t he... RBS pure class.

 

Monaco -- Ajax ---- Salzberg.....
always great to see these young spectacular teams gel. (I'd like to have known in advance though how good they were!)

I think this year this 90% guanrantees an easier draw. Dortmund/Athletico/ Real Madrid are the strong teams out of the 5 teams we can possibly face.
That's a lot better option than having Bayern / Barca/ PSG/ Juventus in the mix....

 

I was gonna ask if any of the young CB's might be expected to step up - but then I realized they'll be holding down the Villa back at home.... jeez

 

Unless you know what Klopp is expecting from him, it is hard to say. Given that Klopp has played him in every Premier League game and every Champions League game this season, and we sit top of both tables, it seems that he is doing what Klopp wants from him

However today's game he was not off form. His off the ball movement was excellent and on the ball

• Only Henderson and the full backs had more passes than him
• He and Keita had the most tackles in the team
• He provided two key passes, only Mane with 3 provided more

I didn't get to see this game live, but I do go to quite a few games and what you do get to notice at Anfield, something which gets overlooked on TV, is the shape and movement of the players who are not in possession. Bobby's running and tactical awareness is excellent both when we attack and when we lose possession. He, along with Henderson and Wijnaldum, are the first to recover possession.

Our team right now plays with two out-and-out wide forwards and two full backs, all four have been given carte blanche to attack. This is why Firminio plays deep, it is why the midfielders last year were, bizarrely, being criticized for their lack of goals and assists. This is a team sport! The team is set up to allow the players best suited to score and assist to do just that. It does not mean the players not scoring and assisting are not contributing.

Top of both the leagues, we have not done that with carrying any passengers in the first eleven.

For the last few years Ronaldo had at Madrid a section of their base could not understand what Benzema did as his goals were not that high. Some thought he was finished. The more informed knew that his game was to get the best out of Ronaldo. With Ronaldo gone he is back to regularly scoring, but when Ronaldo was there the team was built around making chances and space for the player most likely to score. Firminio does the same for Salah and Mane.

 

well said.

 

I did and imo he's off form -- stats and highlights will never tell you that, in the same way as seeing a game live shows you more than tv. he gave the ball away very easily on quite a few occasions.

BTW I'm not trying to be argumentative, and I love the guy. but imo he's due for a rest as Mane and Mo and TAA have been

 

Agree re OX. but -- don't play AA. one more yellow and he misses the LC game. Millie at RB please Jurgen.

 

Clearly Klopp does not think so. This was a must win game and Origi and Ox have both been in goalscoring form recently, Klopp went with the player he has played in all 16 of our League games and all 6 of our Champions League games. Do you think it is possible that Klopp is seeing something different than you?

I have no problem with resting him. I'm not sure why you think that was the point I was making. All of out players, whatever the form they are in, will need to be rested at some point. It is the entire reason we have a squad.